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Mid-Atlantic / Silver Spring traceurs
« on: May 11, 2011, 06:26:50 AM »
Yo guys. I'm visiting home for a few days(im here from today until sunday). Are there any locals that want to train, or take me around to spots?  Would love to see some old and new faces! hook a brotha up!


ill check here or just call or txt me!

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Maryland / Silver Spring traceurs
« on: May 11, 2011, 06:25:56 AM »
Yo guys. I'm visiting home for a few days(im here from today until sunday). Are there any locals that want to train, or take me around to spots?  Would love to see some old and new faces! hook a brotha up!


ill check here or just call or txt me! 240 620 3152

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Pics & Vids / Vid Request- Pompiers du Paris
« on: March 14, 2011, 10:53:03 AM »
Does anyone have a copy or know of a working copy of this video?

Its a video of David and his brother Francois training the Pompiers du Paris(firefighters).  The original link is here on his blog...but is no longer active.  Thanks for the help!!


http://www.wmaker.net/parkour/Le-parkour-et-les-Sapeurs-Pompiers-de-PARIS_a96.html

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Training Journals / JOMR Training Log
« on: January 29, 2010, 09:35:42 AM »
Hmmm...haven't been on the internet in a h-wile.
I usually keep all these notes and such written on paper...but I suppose I can start putting them online for a little intellectual contribution. I mean it is a forum right?

I'm going to leave this as an open structure...more like a narrative with notes, similar to my book training log.  Most posts will be a roundup of things I have done on given day and any notes for improvement of thoughts I might have.


So to start things off:

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Pics & Vids / Team Air Whipp
« on: August 07, 2008, 08:27:31 AM »
Seeing as how I was one of the critics of flippad(or was is zyrken?) throwing that triple cork at the Red Bull competition...I thought it only be fair that I post this and send MADDDDD PROPPPSSSS!!!!!!!!11



EDIT:  WRONG....it was a double, and im an idiot
the whole vid is tight...but 2:57...damn


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9JH67uEUww

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Mid-Atlantic / Galludet University???
« on: June 05, 2008, 11:57:23 AM »
Has anyone ever jammed/checked out this place?

I just found this picture on googlemaps....:


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Movement / Kinesiology/muscle mechanics of broad("Precision") Jump
« on: May 28, 2008, 10:30:27 AM »
Found tihs interesting little article:

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2004-03/1079298283.An.r.html


"What muscles are involved in the standing broad jump?

The standing broad jump starts with a person in a crouched position with
the feet together. With a much speed and strength as possible, the person
straightens the lower limbs to cause the jump forward. The act of
straightening the lower limbs in the broad jump involves the
plantarflexion of the ankle, the extension of the knee and the extension
of the hip.

The posterior leg muscles (calf muscles in the back of the leg) are
responsible for plantarflexing the ankle. When a person prepares for a
broad jump they are usually resting on the balls of their feet, which
means that their ankle is already partially plantarflexed. This “pre-
flexed” position of the ankle means that calf muscle will not be able to
add much to the strength of the jump. Instead, these muscles will add to
the jump’s speed.

The preparation stance also has flexed knees and hips. Two muscle groups
will act to straighten these joints with power (strength). The anterior
thigh muscles (muscle in the front of the thigh) are collectively known as
the quadriceps femoris. This group is made up of four muscles (vastus
medialis, vastus intermedius, vastus lateralis and rectus femoris). Most
of these muscles only act upon the knee joint – the rectus femoris would
also try to flex the hip joint, which means that it will not be active in
the broad jump. The three vastus muscles are very powerful, and so their
action will add both strength and speed to the broad jump by extending
(straightening) the knee.

Finally, the broad jump also needs to extend the hip. There are two groups
of muscles to do this. Gluteus Maximus (the largest muscle in the buttock)
is very powerful, but not very fast. It will give the broad jump power.
The hamstring muscles (located in the back of the thigh) are not as
strong, but will rapidly extend the hip.

To do the broad jump, you first need to get the body moving. This requires
the powerful muscles – gluteus maximus and the quadriceps femoris. Once
the body is moving speed is added by the hamstrings, the calf, and the
continued action of the quadriceps. Muscle activity will be almost
simultaneous. There will also be differences between individuals, but I
would expect most people to activate their muscles in the following
sequence:

1. Gluteus Maximus, 2. Quadriceps Femoris, 3. Hamstrings, 4. Calf Muscles.
"

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Pics & Vids / Aerial Twist?
« on: April 20, 2008, 04:28:26 PM »
Yes?
Is there such a thing as a webster half twist?

Also, skynative if you read this, I just noticed that you have a picture o the Rhesus monkey psychoexperiment. why?

thanks!

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Apparentely, not all the soccer balls were CGI! :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-rJ4uoS5I


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Team Tempest has a day with William Spencer of the Hollarado Team (Colorado shop I think?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okb2FgARtyY



In case you don't know "that vid" here it is!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT_45XGhE1o

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Mid-Atlantic / Jayel Sampler 3!
« on: February 22, 2008, 07:04:31 PM »
Hey, this is Jayel (JL).
Some of you may have seen or met him before. He's a DC local trickster and a member of Team FS.

This is his sampler he just released, and I love his style and tricks!

Just thought I'd spread the love and post it up here!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6iLD3E91xrs

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Parkour And Freerunning / Cat Walk/QM Experiment!
« on: January 25, 2008, 05:05:20 PM »
Cat's take off and land on their front paws first.

So I thought I would try it too!

The clips are as follows:
*Basic QM
*QM leap one
*QM leap two
*QM leap two slo-mo
*QM leap two slo-mo (x2)
*Kong to QM (feet landing first)
*QM leap to land(FAIL)
*Slo-mo FAIL


Try it! Tell me what you think!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQvkynl5GFI

link:youtube.com/watch?v=EQvkynl5GFI



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Pics & Vids / A precision and a front flip(seperately)
« on: January 24, 2008, 04:11:58 PM »
sike!

...just some fun in the gym!



AND CHECK OUT OUR SITE FRPK, or PKFR, or WHATEVER
N3PK FOR LIFE!.

ah, just kidding.

 :-Sarcasm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_1RThdczM

link: youtube.com/watch?v=gR_1RThdczM

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Socialize / What the heck are these stars on our usernames?
« on: January 23, 2008, 02:19:00 PM »
I never really paid attention to this, but what are the stars under our names there for? And why don't I have a billion of them?

Mods?

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Parkour And Freerunning / SI Article
« on: January 16, 2008, 06:12:07 AM »
Sorry if this is a repost.

I don't want to pick any one side here...just some clarification.

And I also hate putting M2 on the spot...


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There is a great article on Parkour on Sports Illustrated.com. Dan Iaboni and others come across very well in the article by Jon Wertheim. The article infers that I don't care about the roots of Parkour and goes on to cut short a quote about David Belle - I'll finish the quote to avoid any confusion. I said that David Belle pushes the envelope of human development, but he's also 35 and lives with his mom, which to me signifies that he is only succesful in certain dimensions. Of course I don't know why David lives with his mom, but most people are out of the house by that age.



what DO you mean by that M2? I mean what does that have to do with parkour?

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This is a little of a read, but I think it's an interesting topic. If you skip to the later parts of the transcript, it makes more sense(or rather quicker sense), but i'd like to hear what people think:

Jumpoff:
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Okay, i'm opening pandora's box here...and if need be, we can start another thread.


Now would you say that if you are truly practicing a parkour...then you are a traceur?

It's like if A=B and B=C, then A=C


Because if so, I don't think that parkour is just "getting point A to point B," and i'm getting sick of hearing that so often.

Isn't it that to practice parkour, you are a traceur?  And the point of a traceur is a philosophy/lifestyle?  It's the lifestyle that you are always conditioning, always training...in the goal of being able to overcome any obstable presented, and have complete mastery of your body.
If this is so, then what akill means to say is that this is a demonstration of parkour/ or the demonstration of my trainings...and that Parkour is a way to develop yourself physically to overcome any obstacle...  It is not just a art where your trying to get from point A to B. I mean if it were that, I'd hop in a tank...that'd probably be the fastest point A to B.

Urban Cat:

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you are absolutely right  parkour is much more than the usual a to b efficiency speach, but it is so difficult to sit and explain it.  honestly i also try to avoid a big deffinition when people ask what im doing or what parkour is simply because i know i cant fully describe it without taking like a couple months to train them.  but i agree with you if parkour was just about getting from point a to be as... then we would all be really borring and our knees and ankles would be mush Grin    i am working on capturing in video exactly what parkour is to me, but its no easy task and its going to take awhile.  i have to do it in video because i couldnt begin to describe it without showing someone

AN D:

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YESSSS! I COMMMMMPLETELYYYYYYYYY agree with you Jumpoffmyroof.  I hate it when people just say its "going from point a to point b"
its a lifestyle and a discipline
but we should shut up cause this is WAY off topic
SORRY SORRY SORRY!


I didnt like that song at all hahah BLEH


Travis Noble:
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Just posted something on dotnet that rings of the same ideas....


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... Parkour is not the art of efficient traversal, it is the discipline of training oneself to peak potential in order to be able to move in the manner that any given situation calls for. You all hang from Blane's nuts when he swings around a bar three times before squeezing into a gap between railings, but bite someone's head off for performing a flip that requires an equal amount of creativity, strength, and control; neither of those movements would be useful in a situation requiring fast, efficient travel. Those who are the happiest with themselves and their training are not the ones arguing and saying they hate something. Life is too short to be hateful and try to change someone else. That said, I'm not trying to change anyone's point of view, but rather get another idea out there that will hopefully at least get someone to stop and think a little bit about their ideals. I just wish for respect and honor and reasonable ideas within the community.


You might see a full-blown article about this from me soon... hmmm....  Sarcasm - Akh Sarcasm - Akh Sarcasm - Akh

Sweet video by the way...

Urban Cat:

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this is as close to a complete deffinition of parkour as i can describe:

Parkour is a discipline of training oneself to reach their maximum potential in order to be capable of adapting to any situation and overcoming any object using only the human body. This training includes efficiency as well as acrobatics in order for one to reach total body awareness no matter what the situation may be. Parkour is not only the action of overcoming obstacles, it is also the act of training oneself to be able to do so whenever the time may come.
does this sum it up or does it need some changes?   i don't know how to describe the state of mind gained form parkour though  i don't know its too compound for me to put my finger on it... which is good i think Grin
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i see what you mean, but i still think it all revolves around obstacles.  i know exactly what you mean with the flips being a part of parkour because they increase awareness and agility and many other things and how the goal is ultimately to be in complete control of your body 100%, but i think the agility, awareness, strength, and control gained from these things are useless unless focused tward overcomming obstacles.   do you know what i mean?    why be 100% in control of your body if you arn't focusing the control twards something?


JumpOff:

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why be 100% in control of your body if you arn't focusing the control twards something?


Then you are not yet a traceur?

You only see the obstacles, and appreciate the thing you can "do" "over" them. Ok, so you can do a kong or a speed or whatever...over a wall.

Yet do you respect the ability of your body to do these things?

Why else do you see hardcore underground french traceurs training so much more than jumping over walls? They train running, jumping(basically MN...but i'll get into this in a sec) handbalancing etc...That's more than about obstacles.

Think of it as...it's not that you can't do the same diving frontflip as that 3run guy because the wall is too tall(because it's obviously been done)...but rather because you have not yet developed the power and control of your own body to do it(because someone else was able to ...)...


sooo basically...if not excluding...but much MORE than just obstacles.


But regressing:

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why be 100% in control of your body if you arn't focusing the control twards something?

Method Naturalle? What is the control focussed into there? It's about the overall development of control of body and mind....There's endzone to score that touchdown.

Urban Cat:
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Why else do you see hardcore underground french traceurs training so much more than jumping over walls?
i think they do these things so they can gain more control and strength to become better at jumping over walls and ect.  im not at all saying if it isn't jumping over walls then it isn't parkour   we are saying the same thing except you are saying we train parkour to gain control  and i think we train control to get better at parkour  or at least that is my way  not that my way is better than your way at all they will both give the same outcome anyway.
 
btw i don't know if it sounds like i am arguing or not, but i am just trying to portray my view of parkour.  no harm or negativity intended at all.

hahaha, no! not at all!
Your explanation has my respect! I mean you gain more experience as you practice, learn about yourself, learn from others, and develop the definition gradually as you progress( you find the answer to "why" sort of? Does that even make sense?)I mean going back to that NewYorker article, even Belle is still trying to understand it...

So yeah, i'm simply trying to get my thoughts as well. I mean i've been in this for 4 years. I've thought alot about parkour.... I traveled Europe and go to train with different traceurs all over...see how they train....etc... then put in the hard work myself, and still train hard every day.  Point is, it all contributed to my understanding of parkour...which I still understand to be nothing compared to...what... 18 years of training and experience will develop?

So that's why i'm trying to get other people to voice what they feel, not in a complete interjection, but rather try to integrate our definitions...all our "100%" will develop the same way in the end. Gravity doesn't change. It's just different to each person how they get there.


So keeping that in mind, I present the next part of my query:

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Why else do you see hardcore underground french traceurs training so much more than jumping over walls?
i think they do these things so they can gain more control and strength to become better at jumping over walls and ect.  im not at all saying if it isn't jumping over walls then it isn't parkour   we are saying the same thing except you are saying we train parkour to gain control  and i think we train control to get better at parkour  or at least that is my way  not that my way is better than your way at all they will both give the same outcome anyway.

Your explination is very fallacious.  It sort of goes in a circle.
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we train parkour to gain control  and i think we train control to get better at parkour

I don't know if it was your intention that they contribute to one another (like Austin Powers: "I eat because im fat, and im fat because I eat"), but it doesn't cover the point I had previously made. Going back to the French traceurs...they train more than obstacles...so my model of "traceur" stands? agreed?

So do you think it would be right to say(excuse such blasphemy if not...although Galileo was persecuted for his "madness") that being a traceur is completely different or even higher up (like in a heirarchial  system) than parkour? That being a traceur is that thrive for "100%" which can be attributed to the constant strength training, flips, aerial awareness, ability to move, MN etc... and that practicing PARKOUR is specifically about the environment; learning to move over and through...USE your environment.
So it's not completely rediculous then that many traceurS practice PARKOUR, because it contributes to their "100%" But that being a traceur has a higher goal I guess completely different purpose than parkour? I mean someone who does not wish to be a traceur...reach that "100%," can still do parkour... I mean it really doesn't take a special person  to learn how to jump over a wall. 

Woah...so I don't know. How does that sound? I think I did a good job of including your argument, and demonstrating that it is correct, however part of a different system?  Sort of not  rebutting, but rather re-integrating.  So what I would like to hear is what you think of my "re-integration" and how you thinks this sounds? makes sense?


so to recap:

You can be a traceur
You can practice Parkour
Many traceurs practice Parkour
However
You can practice Parkour, but not be a traceur


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Pics & Vids / EDIT: Parkour Generations Julie Angel Vid
« on: January 05, 2008, 09:30:17 PM »
Just Sponsored on Youtube...

I remember this on UFF network SOOO long ago, but I guess it JUST came out....


Parkour Generations!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVsa1SFgfU


EDIT: I Stand corrected!

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Socialize / Forum tools testI
« on: January 04, 2008, 12:38:04 PM »
I've never actually played with all the buttons above the post box...so here we go!:

Bold

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Another Color Glow?

Another Color Font +Glow?

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Uh...



Left justify


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stretch?[/hr]

larger font

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table?
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