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Parkour and Freerunning => Parkour And Freerunning => Topic started by: Matthew Lee Willis on November 28, 2005, 01:13:26 PM

Title: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on November 28, 2005, 01:13:26 PM
Yes I posted this on UFF as well.

Hello this is important!

         I am going to be having a meeting this Wednesday with the head fundraiser of a skate park that will be building here in TEXAS.  This I feel is a big step in the development of Parkour.  The park is being built for skateboard but I will be meeting with the representative to try to create some designs that we can incorporate into the park to create Parkour style obstacles. 

I am super excited about all of this but I would like to call upon some true artists that might be able to get this done.  I am not an artist by far but I would love for some people to throw around some ideas on paper and post it or email it to me.  I will give you the rendering of the park now.  There are two and they have not chosen one yet.  I would definitely like the second rendering so that we have much more to work with.

I would love to see a person submit anything that emphasizes Vaults foremost, cats, gaps, tick tacks, precisions to precisions and of course combinations of each.  Like vaults to precision and gap to cat, precision to cat ETC.

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=245ZRLH3MGE0B3IK86W97JJJR7 (http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=245ZRLH3MGE0B3IK86W97JJJR7)
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Skipper on November 28, 2005, 03:01:38 PM
Just build a gate that leads outside?



 :P
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Ryan Ford on November 28, 2005, 03:02:04 PM
some people have done freakin sweet drawings before on UFF. i dont know where they went but it might be worth posting there too.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Skipper on November 28, 2005, 03:09:09 PM
read the scrolling text at the top demon  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Ryan Ford on November 28, 2005, 03:12:55 PM
pssshh scrolling text...its not even there some of the time! ;)
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Skipper on November 28, 2005, 04:23:34 PM
Hahahahah.

Touche` demon, touche`
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Mark Toorock on November 28, 2005, 04:46:20 PM
Scrolling text .. HAHAHHAHA that's awesome!!

Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on November 28, 2005, 10:43:21 PM
thanks for the input...I guess hehe.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Gearsighted on November 29, 2005, 09:04:08 AM
Hmmm, what exactly are you asking for? I don't think it takes an artist to make up some Parkour obstacles, but if you need a bit of creative help, I'll see if I have time to sketch a few ideas down for you once I get home this evening :D
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Flippusmn on November 29, 2005, 05:22:20 PM
just think of things that people would use duh ::) lol. Like kongs to precision or things to pop and climb, or mostly moveable sturdy light objects along with some large walls etc. for custom fit to however a person wants because I know a lot of people with different intrests in parkour than I. Just a thought. ;)
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Quazar on November 29, 2005, 06:35:41 PM
If you think of explicit parkour obstacles your gonna come up with rails and walls, thats it and frankly you can find that anywhere, if your gonna try to expand to avoid that and have moveable convertable obstacles your gonna have a gym, again nothing new.  Try to take inspiration from your own favorite hotspots, look at mundate architecture that happens to be great for parkour although not intended to be, picture the perfect pk heaven type of architecture, in other words, something thats a little different, something thats not just the ideal environment for specific moves.  What I mean by this is instead of envisioning something thats easy to use and holds no extra variables, try to create something thats an obstacle, that will require creative pk problem solving to traverse.  Take for example, the Dame du Lac (that giant tan fin shaped thing in France that David Belle and them folks are always jumping on in footage.  It's not a typical shape or style but it can be used for some of the greastest parkour because it is different and inspires creativity.  It's this principle that always makes public art pieces throughout cities so good for parkour, they're different.

In fact, just look at the rest of the park, for skateboarding, its filled with odd shapes like funboxes and stairs with rails sticking out of them, all stuff that can be used creatively in all sorts of different ways.

Just something to think about, oh and let me just say, this is really awsome, what you've got going, I mean if this pulls through you'll be doing something totally revolutionary.  It's been talked about alot, but I've never heard of it actually being put into effect.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Altimot on November 29, 2005, 09:09:18 PM
I think you should try to do some copies of you favorite hot spots, but give em a cool twist y'know? Like, if your hot spot has a cool place where there are good kongs, then make it like the same but add in a little flare.  :P Also, lets say that you were thinkin of puttin a box type thing some where, make the box a cool shape or something. Make it so it looks intriguing to people who have never been there before. Also, I know you must have at least one perfect setup in you mind, ( like a tic tac to something in the perfect position for grabbing purposes :D )  Also, i don't know if you have played American wasteland yet, but you can make your own graffiti tags and i was thinkin if you come up with a good tag then you could put it in a place where most people enter. That way, they might be like, "parkour??? what the crap is a parkour???", then you could tell them and might get them interested, get it ;).
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on November 29, 2005, 11:01:06 PM
Thank you for all the wonderfull ideas.  I will coping a format that I did previsouly.  I was trying to involve PK and skateboarding in harmony so I think that I might have done that.  My meeting is tomarrow.  Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Asa Liebmann on November 30, 2005, 03:57:15 AM
One word: Parcube.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Skipper on November 30, 2005, 07:44:04 AM
Pistol you know what to do....

TO THE LEXICON!!!! BRING THAT WORD!!!
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on November 30, 2005, 12:37:40 PM
In the Beginning there was arcitecture...
And people were without form and void...
And David Belle and Sebastien Foucan said "LET THERE BE PARKOUR" and there was parkour...
They saw that is was good and parkour was splint into two...
They took FRPK and Devided it from TRPK...
They too saw that this was good...
Then they took the arcitecuture...
And in the midts of the urban and let it devide the urban from the organized urban...
They saw this and they called it Parkour Parks...
They saw that is was good...

Well what I am trying to say in this little quote we got going here is...I meet with the women who is in charge of building a skatepark here in kerrville, Texas.  She has agreed that incorperating parkour into thier skatepark would give more reason for them to have one in the first place.  I will be meeting with her committee and working ways of changing the original design into more parkour friendly park.  I already have some concepts that I have shown here________(there will be a design here on this post in the next day or so)  I have sold her on the idea.  Now what I have to do is get the hight requirments and so forth approved by the insurance company...YOU GUYS...NOW IS THE TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY DESIGN CONCEPTS...please share them with me.

Also, here is what we are up against.  I need ECONOMIC reasons why they should continue with more parkour elements.  Such as it being a world wide sport creating more buzz world wide where people would come to parkour on this park.  This is ground breaking stuff.  Someone posted before that this is huge...I agree...This might be actually completed before the First parkour park in the Uk is completed.  I dont know much about that project...so I assume.  Please give me reasons that I can show her committee.  Now I have plenty of reasons that I can share but I need some things that maybe I havent thought of yet.  Figures, statistics so forth.  THANKS.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Asa Liebmann on November 30, 2005, 12:52:16 PM
The more traceurs + FRPKers that use the park, the better for them.

 Rubber soles do alot less damage to equipment and architecture than the steel of skateboard trucks. Or you could just say that what you do is much less destructive, meaning it won't require any added maintenance costs.



Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on November 30, 2005, 12:56:45 PM
good one...no maintness when doing these types of activities...all of its going to be CEMENT by the way...well its called Shock Cement...its suppost to more absorbable or something...I dont know.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Alex \"Ace\" Scott on November 30, 2005, 05:41:31 PM
"Parcube." - hahaha, Mark's invention right?
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Flippusmn on November 30, 2005, 05:46:15 PM
Yeah the more the better and BTW,
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if your gonna try to expand to avoid that and have moveable convertable obstacles your gonna have a gym


Actually a Gym is a safe environment, this is like one step up, it's just a more convenient place to find good things to use. Gyms don't usually have a variety of walls and rails, I don't mean like the things you'll find in a gym, I mean things like a box or table at a skatepark, miscellaneous obstacles that could be turned somewhat. Think harder, what would make everyone happy even the skaters,  ;) understand what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Call out to ARTISTS
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on December 01, 2005, 01:33:32 AM
So I have been able to find my renderings.  I would like to incorperate these two models together.  Use the highlighted area if you can to try to incorperate my idea with curve of these ramps.  If you can merge the two designes and even add a couple along the way..that would be GREAT thanks guys.

Parkour with highlighted area
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/angrymonkey/HighlightedAreaonSkatepark.jpg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/angrymonkey/HighlightedAreaonSkatepark.jpg)

My idea...parkour/skatepark elements incorperated into it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/angrymonkey/ParKourPark.jpg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/angrymonkey/ParKourPark.jpg)

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Michael Zernow on December 01, 2005, 07:29:46 AM
I'm sorry but did anyone else see something like an M C Escher picture in that second one, i don't know if it's just me but i'm finding it very disorienting, maybe you could clear it up somehow?
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Flippusmn on December 01, 2005, 08:13:32 AM
Yeah please try to fix that, it doesn't make much sense to me sept I think I see some stairs?
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on December 01, 2005, 08:27:16 AM
Come on...its a perspective...tilt it if you have to.  Just look harder. 
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Asa Liebmann on December 01, 2005, 08:40:43 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Pistol_whip/Rotated.jpg)
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on December 01, 2005, 12:58:08 PM
yes...blank posts are awesome.

Edit-sorry pistolwhip...my computer never Downloaded the pic hehe Actually thank you a lot of posting it hehe.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Paul Leon Mederos on December 01, 2005, 01:42:06 PM
Ahhh the great almighty pk park. I got a friend doing architecture in college thats also going to build one. As for ideas, I think that you should scope out some of the TOP pk videos and check out the architecture there because then you'll have an idea of what works and what doesnt. That way... YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!!!!
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Ryan Ford on December 01, 2005, 02:39:47 PM
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If you think of explicit parkour obstacles your gonna come up with rails and walls, thats it and frankly you can find that anywhere, if your gonna try to expand to avoid that and have moveable convertable obstacles your gonna have a gym, again nothing new.  Try to take inspiration from your own favorite hotspots, look at mundate architecture that happens to be great for parkour although not intended to be, picture the perfect pk heaven type of architecture, in other words, something thats a little different, something thats not just the ideal environment for specific moves.  What I mean by this is instead of envisioning something thats easy to use and holds no extra variables, try to create something thats an obstacle, that will require creative pk problem solving to traverse.  Take for example, the Dame du Lac (that giant tan fin shaped thing in France that David Belle and them folks are always jumping on in footage.  It's not a typical shape or style but it can be used for some of the greastest parkour because it is different and inspires creativity.  It's this principle that always makes public art pieces throughout cities so good for parkour, they're different.

I agree with quazar on all of that. The best thing you could come up with is something totally unique that makes all kinds of things possible that you dont find anywhere else. In addition to the unique stuff, it is bound to lend itself to more traditional and common movements as well. The dame du lac is a perfect example. So is this "park" we train at in downtown Denver, CO.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/mrfordguy/pic.jpg)
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Paul Leon Mederos on December 01, 2005, 04:06:35 PM
Or you could just build another Zen Parkour Park like the one we have here in Maryland at Silver Spring... Ahhh how nice. Its just like Demon's weird block shape thing, except its a ton of wood!
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Skipper on December 01, 2005, 04:16:15 PM
hah i was just about to bring that up leon!  :D
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Corndogg on December 01, 2005, 06:47:56 PM
build a weird gate structure around it and you cant come in unless you can get up and over somehow  :P
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on December 02, 2005, 07:58:11 AM
there will be a heavy duty gate around the park so that will be good.  Hey DEMON...you guys were in a NEWS story right...doing Parkour on all of those blocks?  I think I might have seen it.

I want to add a bunch of blocks like the one added below...that would be cool.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Ryan Ford on December 02, 2005, 09:58:22 AM
yeah that was me and a few other colorado pk guys. did it air in your area? i know it aired in a lot of different places throughout the south but hadnt heard of it in texas yet.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on December 02, 2005, 12:41:00 PM
I randomly came across it.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Flippusmn on December 02, 2005, 02:19:32 PM
I like the unique idea but add some stuff around it also like things to kong and things to combo. Bassically that structure with rails and some seperate blocks and your set, I would go there.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Matthew Lee Willis on December 02, 2005, 11:15:44 PM
I sure hope that they people allow me to do that.  The only problem is it has to be able to be used by both skateboarders and parkour so...we have to basicly find something that will always have two purposes for. 
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: ERI104 on December 03, 2005, 03:37:02 PM
both skaters and traceurs have to use it??? how is that gona work??? i don't think skaters can get up a 12 foot wall....
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Flippusmn on December 03, 2005, 05:01:41 PM
Think wider man,
ex) a 12 foot wall with a quarterpipe on the other side or something.
It can definitely happen.
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: ERI104 on December 03, 2005, 06:57:42 PM
haha true but once you get up that wall where do you go? ooo you can use the half pipe like a really akward slide!!!
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Ryan Ford on December 03, 2005, 07:35:36 PM
theres a giant ESPN skate park at the mall in my area. its actually quite good for a lot of pk training. we even talked to them about doing a demo there but they never got back to us. :-\
Title: Re: Parkour Park Being Built!!! Will need some artists help...
Post by: Flippusmn on December 04, 2005, 07:16:35 AM
Thats cool.
Actually guys I used to train at skateparks all the time until they said I couldn't do it anymore lol. It was kind of cool like on top of the quarter pipes there would be a nice little railing to vault etc. This will work out.