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Parkour / Re: Please troubleshoot my roll!
« on: August 13, 2010, 09:40:00 AM »
Thanks, and that vid really helped. Consciously observing how my hand moves really helped me miss my the top of my shoulder and land on the back instead. It worked great on grass, and even on concrete (except I scraped up my hand a bit when I slid it off the concrete). However, when I tried it again later, I was completely unable to do it o_O; if I try, I tend to pull my arm through and then hit my back too hard. I can complete the roll, but it hurts now. Very weird. I'll review my video footage (which I'll upload soon) for what changed.

Parkour / Re: Please troubleshoot my roll!
« on: August 12, 2010, 12:22:54 PM »
It's an interesting vid; it does help me understand hand placement with relation to direction of roll, so that might help me hit the back of my shoulder rather than the bonier part, as well as roll a little more onto my butt/thigh, rather than the hip. I'll try it out tomorrow, but whenever I try to miss the top of my shoulder, I flop on my back.

Parkour / Re: Please troubleshoot my roll!
« on: August 11, 2010, 02:57:40 PM »
Alright, I'll check out the video again. Thanks!

I don't quite understand what you mean by going along the arm and down the back. Wouldn't that take me straight through the shoulder? Do you mean to roll a little less sideways and a little more over my back so I end up on my thigh?

Also, I can't really slow down, I don't think. If I don't have momentum, I don't have enough to carry me over.

Parkour / Re: Please troubleshoot my roll!
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:22:22 PM »
It looks like you could stay tucked for a while longer, might ease some of the impact on your hips/ankles. Other than that, not bad.

Thanks! I'll try and get that.

Dont go to your hip go to your thy.  Watch this.

Whenever I land on the side of my leg (rather than the balls of my feet), I seem to hurt my foot and lose momentum very easily.

Also: What about my arms? They seem to swing back frequently.

New video: I tried to tuck in more, swing arms less, land on my feet a bit better, and hit the back of my shoulder more (I'm still hitting the top a little).

However, I don't seem to be able to keep momentum out of my roll; I generally stumble, but I'm never able to come back to a run.

Update: After some more rolls, I notice I hit my shoulder quite a bit. I do hit the back, but the impact's high enough to still hit the bony part. I've tried and tried, but I can't seem to hit lower down, and I'm really bruising my shoulder. Any suggestions?

Also, I hit my spine (about halfway down my back) once in a while.

Parkour / Re: Please troubleshoot my roll!
« on: August 10, 2010, 02:13:38 PM »
Your roll looks pretty solid. :)

However, it seems like you dont put as much stress on your shoulder area than you hip area. It kinda looks like you're slamming your hips on the ground. (Don't take me wrong, your roll looks very smooth)

Good job :) Keep it up until it's perfect. :D

Hm interesting. I'll try to focus on that when I practice tomorrow, thanks!

Parkour / Please troubleshoot my roll!
« on: August 10, 2010, 01:53:09 PM »
This is me rolling (multiple different rolls on different speeds)
So far, some notes I have to bear in mind are:
  • Focus on hitting the back of the shoulder
  • Make sure to go diagonally
  • Make sure to land on the ball of the left foot, rather than the side

Thanks for any help!

Parkour / Re: Rolling issues
« on: May 18, 2010, 02:13:33 PM »
I can't do Doyle's sitting roll, I actually find the standing roll to be far less awkward and less painful. I can't seem to go forward enough from the sitting one.

Parkour / Re: Rolling issues
« on: May 07, 2010, 02:09:57 PM »
Can't help but feel a little too flattered; pic changed.

Also, I've found that consciously making an effort to tuck my head really does help my entire body turn.

Parkour / Re: Rolling issues
« on: May 07, 2010, 03:02:00 AM »
Yes, that's me in my profile pic. I specifically uploaded that picture so we could judge whether or not I have enough muscle. Although I'm fit, I'm also rather bony, so I do still have bones sticking out on my shoulders.

Also, I've decided to at least take the introductory class at the Monkey Vault gym in Toronto; they might be able to help.

@Texas_Pete I think all discomfort when rolling is bad, because eventually you'll be doing it from larger jumps and faster falls, and discomfort will probably be amplified.

Parkour / Re: Rolling issues
« on: April 25, 2010, 07:40:59 PM »
I'm decently muscled, but I'm pretty lean. Either way, that's not my problem, so I'll work on hitting that area first, and then worry about cushioning ;)

(eh heh heh I spelled "muscled" wrong the first time)

Parkour / Re: Rolling issues
« on: April 25, 2010, 07:21:09 PM »
Alright.. thanks.
I don't really have access to any mats on a regular basis, so I'll try your method of turning my head to get a good diagonal roll.
What part of my shoulder should I be landing on? The top is bony, the diagonal corner is bony, and I can't seem to get a good roll on anything else.

Parkour / Rolling issues
« on: April 25, 2010, 05:32:54 PM »
I, like most beginners, am having trouble getting the roll quite right.
Now, I did Judo for years, where we learned to break falls and roll, but the Parkour roll has to be much more perfect so that you're not hurt whether on mats on concrete.
I usually practice on grass, in my backyard. It seems to work better from a small and jump off a small box (a foot or two in height) rather than just running and trying to roll.

Understanding the roll without a teacher is hard, so I'm having some issues. I've heard a few times that the first thing that's supposed to hit (aside from your hands) is the back of your shoulder; however, when I've flipped that much before landing, I can't get a smooth roll, and usually end up winded.

From watching videos, I've come to think that rolls are more sideways than I originally thought, but when I do that I tend to hit the side of my shoulder too hard (it's bruised now), and end up coming up too far on my side. If I try to get less of a horizontal angle, then I end up both hitting the top of my shoulder (the part where bone protrudes) and rolling across my spine in a painful way. I can't seem to find any angle in between.

Has anybody else had these problems? Any advice?


International Discussion / Re: Canadians
« on: April 25, 2010, 05:18:04 PM »
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International Discussion / Anyone in Markham/Stouffville/Unionville?
« on: April 25, 2010, 05:16:50 PM »
It's that simple. Anyone in that general area?

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