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Training Journals / Re: Neon's Log
« on: June 12, 2007, 11:28:51 PM »
Parkour Workout

Worked on triple kongs, double kongs, and kongs, all for longer distances than I've ever done any of them. Did a few Kong to precisions too.

Worked on the distance of Dash vaults too.

Other Workout/Training



Halibut and Cous Cous
Oh, and I got completely hammered for the first time ever, I'm sure that's real nutritional.

Things To Work ON

1)  Kong take-off technique
2)  Dash hand placement
3)  rolls
4)  one-hand reverse
5)  climb-up from cat-grab
6)  wall runs
7)  back flips
8)  wall flips
9)  front flips
10) Wall Spins
11) Tic-Tacs
12) Underbars


My abs were dead tired from working out on Sunday, so a couple of my Kongs ended in my muscles
    refusing to contract and then me sort of flying through the air/slamming into the padding
    (thankfully) like a dead fish.
That bit about getting hammered was a real nice feeling. You know, wanting to vomit and and barely
    being able to walk around. Definitely not going to go through that again any time soon.

Ah, well thanks Leonn and Jag. I appreciate it :)

Parkour And Freerunning / APK Forum/Site Integration profile problem
« on: June 11, 2007, 09:06:47 PM »
Alright, I haven't been around for a bit, so I guess I missed the integration, but now my profiles are having a bit of trouble, let me try to explain this...

I have two profiles, it used to be one for the site and one for the Forums. Neon was my profile for the site, and Bertetta was my profile for the forums (but the username everyone saw was Neon, it was an option back before the integration). So now, Neon, my profile with zero posts, can log in to both the site and the forums, but Bertetta is no longer nicknamed Neon, and that profile can not log on to the site.

I tried changing my username of Bertetta to Neon, but my Neon account is now getting in the way. I can not delete my Neon profile personally (at least, there is no button that I can see in the profile editor thing), but I am hoping once that it's deleted I can change the name of Bertetta to Neon.

I was hoping that someone with the ability to delete profiles could help me out. I don't know M2's email address, or anyone else's email for that matter, otherwise I would send him an email myself.

PS: How does one edit his signature now? I couldn't find it, and whenever I clicked "Profile" it brought me to the main page. In which I could also not find how to change my sig.

Movement / Re: Double Kong to Kash
« on: June 11, 2007, 07:36:23 PM »
Sweet! That looked awesome! Those guys are real good too, the kash at the beginning was amazing, and so was that Dash to dive roll bit about 10 seconds after the double kongs to kashs. I can't wait to get those down.

Training Journals / Re: Neon's Log
« on: June 11, 2007, 03:12:23 PM »
This is a general log, pretty much covering everything I've done over the past month or so since I last posted.

Parkour Workout

Lots, I went to the Gym a couple times. I've perfected my double kong, and am working on a triple kong. I've been working on Underbars a little bit here and there, and balance has been very big as well.

Other Workout/Training

I've been working on wall, back and front flips.

I hiked 18 miles (9 miles each way) to the top of Half Dome in Yosemite national Park.

I've been working on pull ups. I can get about 5 in a row.


Meh, not that well. But I've been eating less than I did during the school year, because I'm doing less (the only exercise I get is Parkour on Monday and Wednesday and whenever I go out on my longboard) now that it's summer vacation.


Work on Kongs, length and technique
Get underbars, both kinds.
Cat grabs, overall.
Work on wall runs/tic tacs
Work on combining vaults together more fluidly


I've actually overshot a few vaults recently. I don't know if I'm not evaluating things well enough or if my spring is just better than I'm used to (I havn't trained as much in an urban environment as I would have liked, I've been training more in the gym than anything).

I'm really working hard towards that triple kong. Also, a double kong to Kash. Underbars are something that are really stumping me and I really am trying to achieve.

Movement / Double Kong to Kash
« on: June 11, 2007, 03:04:20 PM »
I posted this on the UF forums, and got mixed opinions. I was hoping to get a different communities perspective on it.

I think it's a very plausible, and possibly useful move. Imagine performing a double, or even triple kong, then adding adding a Kash at the end! A traceur could clear almost any length of obstacle with something like this perfected.

Movement / Re: Favourite Vaults
« on: June 11, 2007, 03:02:03 PM »
Double Kong's and Dash's are my favorite vaults. Lazy's used to be, until I learned the Dash. The double Kong just feels so good when I do it, and it doesn't require a lot of work for me, unlike a regular Kong, in which I tend to have to really concentrate for. Dash vaults just feel real flow-y to me.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: i need an idea for clothing
« on: May 13, 2007, 06:19:21 PM »
I usually wear baggy, lose pants. I have a pair of Khakis (I think that's what they're called...beige dress pants essentially) that I usually wear, and then a black t-shirt with different writings on it (ex: OWNED!; Trust Me I Do This All The Time; or some UFF shirts)

I just suggest breathable, light weight, baggy clothing. Although I wore a pair of jeans out to do some PK once, and it wasn't all that bad, to be honest. I'm also starting to wear a cap, of which I got a Disney. For shoes, just go to a store, and look for something that looks like it has good grip, then try them on and jog around the store a bit, do a few rolls and jump over any chairs they may have. I personally prefer Asics to anything else. I saw a suggestion of a bag, which I figure as useless. For one, it prevents you from doing rolls. Why not just keep your cell phone in your pocket? And they're water fountains all over the place.

Protecting your shins is a very good idea, as Zeus said. My shins were purple, rather than white for the first month or so of PK.

Movement / Re: Barbed Wire!!!!
« on: May 06, 2007, 01:39:38 PM »
ever seen fight club? just use something like a carpet square or find something in your environment to put over it then do what you will.

yeah, but if your running away from a guy with a knife, you can't just ask him to hold on a moment while you find a carpet.

how about....the MOON.

but seriously, I know that San Francisco and most of California is amazing for Parkour. I vacationed there recently, and I found lots of spots. I'm going to Yosemite soon, that should be fun, and then my Dad's moving to LA, so I can't wait to explore all that.

Training Journals / Re: Neon's Log
« on: April 22, 2007, 06:05:58 PM »
Parkour Workout

3 Hours of Parkour training with Renzhe. We trained:

Pop vaults, cat grabs, underbars, precisions, balancing.

Other Workout/Training

3 hours or so of man hunt, which is a lot of sprinting.


I can't remember.


Work on Kongs, length and technique (length is improving)
Get underbars, both kinds. (I've got them down alright, now I'm just working on doing them in smaller gaps)
Cat grabs, overall (worked on it, and pulled myself up from all the ones I did)
Work on wall runs/tic tacs
Work on combining vaults together more fluidly
Jump height (Improving some)


This is actually yesterdays, but when I got home I just conched out immediately.
I am unbelievably sore. It hurts sit, and it was horrible going up a stair case.

iv been doing it for about  year like every once and awhile. wasnt too serious but within the week me and my buddy that does it with me decide to get serious and do it every week. my mom randamly says one mistake doing parkour will ruin my life. i will get hurt miss outdoing my sports. my mom doesn't understand i like doing flips. and i like parkour  mor than doing my sports and my parents wont accept that and it really pisses me off.

(i can roll... but im still working out a som kinks and landings. can kong, vault, pop vault a little, getting a better kong down)i

Oh, so you're a bit further along than I originally thought. Good. Oh, and I dislike your mom. But I would totally own her in an argument. You should learn how to fight with words.

Anywho, tell her that simply breaking a bone won't ruin your life. And it's really unlikely you'll snap your spine. Oh, and please, if your trying to convince your parents that you should be allowed to do Parkour, please please don't show them flips. Ask your parents to supervise you in doing Parkour, and just practice rolls and kongs and the such. Don't do anything wild at all. I wish I could help you some more here, but I've got to be on my way now.

What's your Dad think of all this? and are you an only child?

i did they still said im going to break my leg in a freak accident when i dont get a high enough vault and get my leg caught and face plant

That wouldn't be your leg breaking if you face plant onto concrete...

I always like to argue the point, in situations like this, that it's twice as likely to get in a fatal car crash than it is to screw up something that is usually practiced until it is perfect. And then I start naming off all sorts of other things, like shark attacks, and a meteorite slamming onto my head. Make sure to point out that people snap they're ankles by just walking or jogging sometimes. Shit happens.
That's worked for me before.

Alright, convincing them before you start practicing PK is out of the question, unless the above works. Start practicing your landings and your rolls in your back yard. Start doing W.O.D.s and building strength, and show your parents that your really dedicated to this. Every time they ask what your doing tell them your training for Parkour, and make sure to add how what your doing now is adding to your overall safety in PK. Start jogging too. Go find a bench or railing that you can start practicing the beginner vaults (my first vault was a lazy, and then I moved on to speed, then kong, then dash) on such obstacle, preferably without them knowing. After they've begun to see the light, you could go show them.

If you can drive and have a source of money, go find a gymnastics gym and practice your stuff there, instead of out over concrete. Most gyms will have open gym nights, and should cost around $10.

My dad really likes Parkour, he knows it's something that keeps me in shape, and since he used to do Gymnastics, he sees a real similarity between the two. My mother doesn't really like it, but she knows it keeps me in shape.

You just have to show them that it's safe, even though it doesn't look safe. Introduce them to the crew your hanging out with, if their uncomfortable with you hanging out with strangers. My father drives to UCF to practice with some friends, and he still hangs out and watches us, giving me advice here and there.

Training Journals / Re: Neon's Log
« on: April 13, 2007, 02:48:09 AM »
Parkour Workout


Other Workout/Training

Biked 6 times around my neighborhood
Jogged once around my neighborhood


Cream of Rice
School Lunch
Turkey Sandwich
Chicken Caesar Salad


Work on Kongs, length and technique
Get underbars, both kinds.
Cat grabs, overall.
Work on wall runs/tic tacs
Work on combining vaults together more fluidly
Jump height


It was such a nice night out, I decided to go out and ride my bike a bit. It really cleared my mind and calmed me.
I decided to go for a job immediately afterwards, and it started raining heavily about half way through. It felt amazing.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Anyone want to be interviewed?
« on: April 10, 2007, 06:57:41 PM »
1. How long have you been studying parkour or freerunning?

Almost two years now.

2. Which do you practice more? Why not the other one?

Parkour. Mainly because I didn't really know the difference between Parkour and Freerunning at the start, but now that I do, I'm starting to learn a bit more about Freerunning.

3. How did you get started?

I saw a Scion ad on TV, and about a month later I found a great site,, and hooked up with some guys and began practicing.

4. What do you think has the greatest impact on a person's skills? Why?

Hard work, constant training and dedication. I have noticed a considerable difference if one works out as well as train technique, not one or the other.

5. Has practicing parkour/freerunning ever prevented or caused any serious injuries? If so, what happened?

The first thing you learn in Parkour is safety, so I've never gotten heard, other than a few bruises here and there. But the training I've received has definitely kept out of danger's path. I've been pushed down stairs, and instead of falling, I jumped and rolled. And then punched the pusher.

6. What was your biggest challenge throughout your studying of parkour/freerunning?

Overcoming my own Mental and Physical boundaries. I was in really bad shape when I started, and I'm still not in perfect shape. It took me a while to get Monkey's and Kong's, mainly because of my fear of catching my legs. But other than that, perfecting my roll is constantly being worked on, and I am always trying to make it better and safer.

7. Were your parents ever concerned about your safety?

Of course, but mainly the part about me meeting people I met over the internet. Otherwise, it was pretty easy to convince them that safety comes first in Parkour.

8. Did you convince any of your friends to try parkour/freerunning?

I definitely tried, but it only stuck with one out of maybe ten. I stopped trying after I tried teaching a skateboarder about it, and he started doing stalls and grabs.

9. In your opinion, is parkour/freerunning a sport? If so, what makes it different from other sports? if not, why?

I've never been 100% sure about this part of Parkour. I believe a sport is essentially an art, but with competition. And although there haven't been any formal competitions yet, there is always the human will to strive past his companions. I know I try to be just as good or better than some of my friends, and it feels good when I can do something they can't. And although I know it's inevitable, I loathe the day that Parkour has official competitions.

10. Do you have any messages you would like to tell people about freerunning/parkour?

Parkour is a great thing, and has brought diverse groups of people together. Everybody treats everybody else with respect, and it is a community that shares a common goal: To have fun.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Bussiness and Pk
« on: April 10, 2007, 06:28:07 PM »
Look, the debate goes round and round about competitions, but truth is Commercialization & Competitions are not an IF they are a WHEN, the only thing worth debating is how is it going to happen. After watching how Skating and Climbing grew and judging by how fast PK/FR is growing with the added fuel of the internet, I don't think you have very long to make a decision... but it is you the participants who need to decide, before big business decides for you.

I definitely like the way you put that, and I suppose you make a really good point. I haven't been around for any of that, but as long as can remember, skate boarding has been competitive, and full of assholes, with a few cool guys in between. And Parkour is something that's really dear to me, for many reasons, and I just don't want to lose it, or for it to change.

But if anyone were to start holding Parkour "competitions" (I cringe just writing it), than I would want it to be APK or .NET. Definitely with the consent and approval of David Belle.

If anything, please don't let UFF do it first.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Bussiness and Pk
« on: April 10, 2007, 06:18:37 PM »
Alot of traceurs have been angry that corps are starting to see Parkour as a bussiness opportunity. I see it as a good thing. Yes many bussiness's dont understand parkour fully and rationally but this is the way to get PK out there! How to you think 5.10 were made. More bussiness means more intrest means more people more bussiness oppotunities for traceurs and better developed equipment.

This is the next step from cult activity to trend dont you think? I myself would like to see parkour bloom into a bigger and better activity.

I think your wrong, In every way. I don't want to get Parkour out there, for fear of it being ruined by people who don't see the philosophy in it and don't understand it, and don't care to. People who just want to be able to jump around and climb up walls, to cause mischief possibly.

Parkour is all about getting over obstacles, and getting around things that other people can't, etc. Why would we want specialized equipment? That's akin to building a Parkour Park. Which is bad.

Trends don't last, buddy. I'd rather have this as a cult activity, as a small group of people world wide who do this because they love, not because they love the attention. I would hate to see Parkour become like skateboarding, and be in the Olympics, or anything like that.

Why or how would Parkour becoming bigger and more commercialized make it better?

Training Journals / Re: Neon's Log
« on: April 04, 2007, 06:09:44 PM »
Parkour Workout

None. Damn it. I'm hoping I can find some nice spots when I go to Miami this weekend.

Other Workout/Training

WOD Tuesday
Shuttle runs:
8.7 seconds
8.4 seconds
9.0 seconds

three out of four rounds of the other stuff.


I forget...same thing as usual probably.


Work on Kongs, length and technique
Get underbars, both kinds.
Cat grabs, overall.
Work on wall runs/tic tacs
Work on combining vaults together more fluidly
Jump height


This is for Tuesday, I didn't have time to post it yesterday.
Courage the Cowardly Dog is the most amazing show ever.

Training Journals / Re: Neon's Log
« on: April 02, 2007, 06:21:26 PM »
Parkour Workout

None, Damn it.

Other Workout/Training

6 Pull Ups
W.O.D. Friday
-4 1/3 rounds


Cream of Rice
School Lunch
PB&J sandwich.


Work on Kongs, length and technique
Get underbars, both kinds.
Cat grabs, overall.
Work on wall runs/tic tacs
Work on combining vaults together more fluidly
Jump height


Nothing in particular. Hard work out.

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