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Title: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Tyson Cecka on November 21, 2007, 01:54:48 AM
I get this question a lot from beginners asking what they should focus on first, speed vaults? kongs? lazies? cats? gap jumps? I say, none of the above.

There are two things I generally tell people who are starting out. First, that you need to learn how to land before you learn to fly. And second, that the most important aspect of parkour you can learn early on is the ability to break movements down into their simplest components. A speed vault can simplify to a two handed vault, which can simplify to what I call a safety vault (where you use a foot to help you over), which can simplify to many other things. These different vaults are useful in different circumstances of course, but the most important thing about them is they make the learning process into a safe and effective progression rather than jumping straight to what you have already probably seen in videos.

Videos rarely show how people get to that point, and it's important to think about the different steps and progressions that go into learning things for the first time. So my advice is to develop your landing and rolling technique, strengthen your body (building your armor), and simply experiment with getting over obstacles in ways that work for you (and are safe). Then increase the speed, or change the angle of approach, or the type of obstacle, etc... Work from the simplest you can think of slowly up to the more complex. In this way you'll both have a more complete picture of parkour and won't injure yourself by skipping to the hard stuff.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: mickey stewart on February 17, 2009, 04:24:15 PM
I started off doing rolls and minor vaults. i then got good at vaults( well sort of good) and started wall runs.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Jeremy Osborn on February 17, 2009, 05:01:32 PM
you guys, just throwing this out there, i jumped straight into the harder stuff, and it was hard, i couldnt do almost anything, so i stopped :(. this year im back, im already practicing rolls, and other things i can do in my room while it warms up outside and the grass gets softer, im coming back starting from the bottom, doing the big stuff gets you nowhere if you jump right into it, take it from someone whos done it
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: B Rock on March 20, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
I'm a relative newcomer to parkour, but I've done martial arts a long time, so I'm already a bit ahead of some of my other beginning parkour budies.
LEARN YOUR ROLL!!! this is so important. I can't stress it enough. If you get really good at your rolls then you'll be able to try things without being too afraid of killing yourself. You'll never get anywhere if you don't experiment a little. Of course you should still be carefull, but this is definitly an important basic skill.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Brandon Haag on May 19, 2009, 01:31:56 PM
If your starting off, learn how to land and roll first. it's very important that you learn how to land. rolling takes time to learn. then when you feel that your ready start on vaulting but take your time and always be safe. and take your time.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Hans Hansen on May 22, 2009, 03:21:13 PM
Learn the fundamentals.  Learn to land correctly, and perfect your roll.  You may also want to try to practice some techniques in save environments.  Find a small stable wall, and hang on it.  Shimmy around.  Get your grip strong.  There's more to this art than cool moves, you know.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Lysander on May 24, 2009, 08:11:29 AM
I'd say, work on your landings, rolls, etc: first before anything else. Once you got that down, practice doing a monkey, lazy, whatever you feel the most comfortable doing. Once you get over your fear of vaulting, try some wallruns. Find a nice, flat wall and practice on that. This is what I did and it worked out fine.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Parkourboy48 on October 23, 2009, 03:01:49 PM
I'm 12 and I just started doing this. Im practicing my rolls in my basement, every time I do it though my sholder gets jammed forward and my head hits the ground (not really hard, but hard enough to give you a headache). I've done every thing i can to try to fix it but nothing is working, what else should i try?   
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Meshach on October 23, 2009, 03:04:11 PM
This tutorial helped me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgPd29MlHpg
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Parkourboy48 on October 23, 2009, 03:56:50 PM
it helped a little but i still have the tendesy to hit my head, this is my only second day practicing though. I did the progression 3 with the hands, which helped. I dont know if i doing bad or good though.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: David Johnson on October 23, 2009, 07:49:48 PM
Tuck your head. Use your hands to roll over the front of your shoulder.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Meshach on October 24, 2009, 08:47:46 AM
In a good roll your head will never, ever, ever touch the ground, watch the video again and really study it. Break it down into parts, where he puts his head, the part of the shoulder that touches the ground first, the angle of the shoulder to the hip as he rolls (adjust this accordingly), the foot placement (shoulder width apart), etc.

Just practice, practice, practice and you'll get it eventually.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Parkourboy48 on October 24, 2009, 11:05:02 AM
I've practiced it a little more and im getting a lot more comfortable. My head is just barely skinning it on some partss. Im still going to practice 30 min. sessions, twice a day, thanks for the help ;D
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Meshach on October 24, 2009, 11:09:28 AM
No problem! :)

Train safe man.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: alxsmpgmr on October 30, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
I am really new, but am not sure what to practice on. There aren't that many good spots near my house. but then again, i am not looking at them like a traceur would. still. any advice
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: New_Kid on December 01, 2009, 07:11:20 AM
guys i really like parkour and i have just trained for a few days
i am quite good at the turn vault,simple vault,lazy vault (by youtube)
and now i'm having 2 problems
1 there aren't many trainable obstacles near my place (i living in VN)
2 i can't roll  :-\ maybe im too afraid of hitting the ground or grass . I've trained hard at home on soft places but i can't on any other places :(
what should i do?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Chad Johnson on December 03, 2009, 05:23:12 PM
I've been at Parkour for a couple of weeks now, mainly working out and practicing rolls and watching tutorial videos.
I feel pretty comfortable with landing about 7', I've done it and it doesn't hurt at all. I've also wallrunned up the side of the shed succesffully.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Kimbrough on December 16, 2009, 03:09:30 PM
As far as the rolling I am probably very little help since I just started also but I found I roll a lot more comfortable when I practice on a very hard surface. I practice in my basement and it helped a lot with not being afraid to roll. From my experience practice always helps with being more comfortable, though im not sure how much you have done
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Chad Johnson on December 17, 2009, 12:08:01 PM
really it's easier for you to roll on harder surfaces? I've got carpet and grass pretty down pat.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Travis S on December 17, 2009, 01:11:37 PM
The great thing about learning rolls on hard objects is that your technique HAS to be good or you will feel pain. I'm sure that there are better ways to start, but when I got into parkour I didn't go on forums and ask people how to do moves or anything of that nature, I saw some moves in videos and tried them until they felt right, got a little banged up but it was worth it. Being self-taught is an advantage in my mind because it gives me a great understanding of my own body and all of my motivation comes from within. I think that people should definitely have good technique but you don't NEED other people online to tell you how to do parkour, I'll say that. Fear about hurting yourself is going to be a big hindrance in your training, you have to be strong, you need good balance and you need to understand how to use your body to your advantage. Just move in ways that use your muscles and joints to benefit you, if you are slamming down on your hands or feet EVER you know you lack control and you will probably end up getting hurt; learn to control your body and you will go far. So know your limits, and don't try to do that two story drop before you know anything about technique or your body's ability to resist large forces. Parkour isn't about going huge for some video online, and its not about going on forums. Parkour is about learning good technique, strengthening your body and mind, learning about your body and being prepared for challenges. Don't be afraid to try things, but be safe and go out training.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Chad Johnson on December 17, 2009, 01:48:48 PM
You've got a valid point there. Kinda the same here i've been watching a bunch of vids and looking up some tutorials on the APK website and then just go out in my neighborhood and train.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Kimbrough on December 19, 2009, 06:21:17 AM
yea i really want to start jumping off buildings but deep inside I know im lacking the leg strength needed so im doing squats and what have you i have to workout all of my body because i also lack upper body strength too xd. but am i going to slow?? because so far i only do 30 minute roll practice every couple days and might try to practice a vault or sumthing but mostly im working out to gain muscle
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Andy Keller on December 19, 2009, 09:03:26 AM
yea i really want to start jumping off buildings[...]

Why? Parkour is not about jumping off buildings.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: sandeepanandnair on December 20, 2009, 09:02:34 AM
I get a little dizzy (like when you hang upside down for a while) when I practice rolls. With blood rushing into the head and back and all those. Is that normal? will it feel better after a lot of practice. Has anybody felt the same.


I remember once when I did a bungee jump, my face turned so red and the little veins in my eyes almost burst, (felt and looked that way) I looked like a monster.. my eyes looked red as rubies ,people had asked me if i was drinking on the way up for the Jump..? is it just me..

Personally I think Ryan Doyles Parkour Roll Tutorial (on Youtube)would be very helpful for a lot of us beginners.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: ctparkour on December 20, 2009, 03:03:37 PM
honestly i neveer focused on this kind of stuff... i never watched youtube videos or knew what any of the vaults and moves were called, I just kinda did it.  So my advice is, learn whatever you can... it doesnt matter if you know what the names of things are called, what matters is that you can do a certain move when you need to.  So just train on whatever you've got, and start experimenting with what your body can do!
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Kimbrough on December 20, 2009, 09:29:54 PM
lol to the comment i know its not its about the moving efficiently quickly part but am i the only one who looks at a building and gets tempted? or is that just the freerunners? o.o
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Chad Johnson on December 28, 2009, 10:17:31 AM
yeah dude Parkour is not about jumping off of buildings, in fact you can be an expert and not jumped off of a building the entrie time, I mean is jumping off the building getting you anywhere faster?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Travis S on December 29, 2009, 11:26:39 AM
Parkour may not be solely about jumping off of buildings, but drops are a part of the discipline and its something you do have to learn eventually. You might have to jump from a high place sometime, it happens.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Reues on December 30, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
..I feel like a moron for asking, but you guys keep mentioning to learn your rolls, does this mean like the rolly-polly rolls? (Tucking yourself in a ball and rolling across the ground.) or something else?  Same with the landing? Just plain learning to land on your feet from distances or?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Joey Cianfrocca on April 30, 2010, 10:20:18 AM
..I feel like a moron for asking, but you guys keep mentioning to learn your rolls, does this mean like the rolly-polly rolls? (Tucking yourself in a ball and rolling across the ground.) or something else?  Same with the landing? Just plain learning to land on your feet from distances or?

they mean rolling, like doing a summersault. its easy to do, but doing it on hard surfaces can get you hurt if you don't do it right.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: EmbraceTheGrace on May 10, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
Anyone have any information/advice on how to do these moves? im starting out and im unsure of all of them.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: matttrick on May 12, 2010, 11:19:43 AM
I am as far as possible from an expert, barely a beginner but I have started just doing some basic rolls and balancing in my home. I took a motorcycle class last summer. One of the best things they did was to drill us on brake, clutch, downshift until it became muscle memory. I am looking at rolls the same way. Repetition and focus on form is necessary to get your body to respond when it counts.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: nighthawk102397 on July 19, 2010, 11:13:51 AM
I started of with rolls and simple vaults and build myself up from there.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Tyler Summers on November 23, 2010, 10:39:55 PM
always rolls there most important, yes its already been stated, im just emphasizing it
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: alyssa summers on March 03, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
Practice landing and rolls, I started practicing parkour at least 3 months ago and I. Havnt gotton the roll perfect. I also started out with easy vaults, such as the lazy and simple.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Josh Boggs on March 13, 2011, 05:27:46 AM
Alyssa, are you and Tyler related?  ::)
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Nooblet177 on March 28, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
Why is everyone saying what to do?  ??? Just listen to the first guy, if you're on this post, then why are you saying what to do and\or what you did?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: superdude88 on August 07, 2011, 04:58:36 PM
Practice landing and rolls, I started practicing parkour at least 3 months ago and I. Havnt gotton the roll perfect. I also started out with easy vaults, such as the lazy and simple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnrS3awx4Q
theres a nice tutorial
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: matthew hill on February 16, 2012, 05:59:58 PM
Hey I'm just starting parkour but I've gotten pretty good at landings and the roll. what should I try to learn next?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Anton Mesmer on June 13, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
Videos rarely show how people get to that point, and it's important to think about the different steps and progressions that go into learning things for the first time.

This is exactly what I hope to achieve with my website http://www.actiontutorials.com (http://www.actiontutorials.com). I'm not new to higher forms of movement, but I am new to Parkour. I plan to keep all my progress vids archived and eventually write up a basic progression for learning. Come visit it guys!
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Conner McGillvray on June 17, 2012, 06:02:44 PM
I'm 12 and I just started doing this. I'm practicing my rolls in my basement, every time I do it though my shoulder gets jammed forward and my head hits the ground (not really hard, but hard enough to give you a headache). I've done every thing i can to try to fix it but nothing is working, what else should i try?
Start by dive rolling.  get a fluent roll, SHOULDER TO HIP and make it smooth.  don't hesitate to throw your head under, i would hate to see you kill yourself trying to roll because your head smashes the cement. You shouldn't be getting headaches from rolling.  after you perfect the upper body movement, land on your feet from a waist height, and don't bend your knees past 90 degrees or you'll shoot them.  Tie the motion together until it feels perfect.  you can video yourself to clean up the little things. then progressively get larger, but there will never be a real need to drop more than head height if your training safely.  Good luck, message me if you have more questions.
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: austen on June 27, 2012, 10:29:30 AM
i can do all the vaults, tick tacks, wall runs, roll, and Cat walls now what do i learn.?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Conner McGillvray on June 27, 2012, 08:26:23 PM
i can do all the vaults, tick tacks, wall runs, roll, and Cat walls now what do i learn.?
Well keep practicing all of those things.  The bigger they get the better, but if you want something more flashy try flipping.  also, theres different levels for every movement.  for example a kong vault can be turned into a double kong for a more impressive display.  work on advancing in what you already have though.  Good Luck!!! :)
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Tomas on August 31, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
I'm 12 and I simply started repeating this. Im doing my rolls inside my basement, whenever I take action though our sholder obtains jammed forward and our head hits the earth (not very hard, but tricky enough to offer you a headache). I've done all i can to try and fix this but absolutely nothing is working, what else should i try?
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Oliver Wegner on September 01, 2012, 02:47:13 AM
The shoulder and hip can be quite tricky, but I really can't imagine that nothing is working to protect your head. If it is so tricky, concentrate HARD on tucking your head in as much as possible during the roll. And don't roll over your spine, but over the shoulder.
Have you watched some tutorials dealing with the roll? They can be quite helpful :)
Title: Re: I Just Started, What Moves Should I Learn First?
Post by: Tomas on October 24, 2012, 01:42:42 AM
Parkour may not be completely about getting off of structures, but falls are a aspect of the self-discipline and its something you do have to understand gradually. You might have to leap from a higher position sometime, it happens.
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