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Title: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 15, 2010, 08:17:54 PM
[This is meant to be a fun topic]

Soo... I'm teaching myself German, so far only using online sources. I also convinced my bro to start learning as well so we can converse.

I want to introduce another language though. I've read some stuff about learning multiple language at the same time, but has anyone here been successful at it?

All I can think of it is that it'll just take time and focus. I've already gotten pretty good into Spanish from high-school classes, but those were way to easy and I definitely won't want to take classes again. I tend to be able to remember things with minimal effort.

Anyway, I also found a sick sequence of videos where they go around talking to real Germans with the type of stuff that you might learn in a class, so hopefully that could act as some sort of immersion-type experience: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXDM9XXhQ4 (first one)


I can't decide what other language to add in though. I could finish up my Spanish, or I could do it World War style.... use English to conquer German, German to conquer French, English to conquer Japanese... though I want to fit Italian in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Tex__ on August 15, 2010, 08:20:51 PM
Ich bin uber kuh

translate.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: hfksla on August 15, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
you should see the grammar nazi thread XD
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Tex__ on August 15, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
no one?

Ich bin uber kuh

translate.
come on
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: PkShinobi on August 15, 2010, 10:07:53 PM
no one?
 come on

"Ich bin uber kuh"
I am about cow?...
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Andrew Wilson on August 15, 2010, 10:12:51 PM
Try rosetta stone :D
I did it with spanish for a while, and you really do learn fast :D
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Tex__ on August 15, 2010, 10:34:06 PM
"Ich bin uber kuh"
I am about cow?...
pretty much yeah lol

i love cows. no clue why.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 15, 2010, 10:53:42 PM
Natürlich Hans nass ist... er steht unter einem Wasserfall.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Spencer B on August 16, 2010, 04:08:45 AM
Italian

Old school Italian is where it's at.

Quod tuere dictare?
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Ethan Nicholson on August 16, 2010, 04:12:42 AM
"Parlez-vous Francais?
Oui!
Parlez-vous Francais?
Oui!
Si tu peux le parler allez tombez la chemise"

Learn French. You'll get all the bitches if you learn French.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 16, 2010, 07:16:48 AM
Old school Italian is where it's at.
Sure, but the point initially is to be able to converse if I were to go to the country. After that, I'll take on whatever else I feel like.

Learn French. You'll get all the bitches if you learn French.
Good point... ^_^


I still think it'd be legit, and cement my German skills to learn French IN German. I'm not sure how many programs exist here to do that.

As far as computer programs go though, I found something called Instant Immersion which seems to be quite similar to Rosetta Stone but
$199930059 cheaper. Reviews speak nicely of it, I'd probably go that way when the time comes.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Harry Smith on August 16, 2010, 08:26:06 AM
"Parlez-vous Francais?
Oui!
Parlez-vous Francais?
Oui!
Si tu peux le parler allez tombez la chemise"

Learn French. You'll get all the bitches if you learn French.

I am sorry, I will not take my shirt off for you.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRZ-jLOrFfk)
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: hfksla on August 16, 2010, 09:53:20 AM
Italian equals win
hold on
devo pisciare
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 16, 2010, 03:17:53 PM
I need some more votes! Haha...

I'm kinda liking French and Italian right now. I'll definitely refresh my Spanish simultaneously. German is going really well (I actually started like a month ago btw, not yesterday :P)


EDIT: It may just be a good strategic move to start on Italian next, as it's a base language that might make Spanish, French, Portuguese, etc easier to learn. (Right?)

Ultimate goal: become Jason Bourne. :P
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: S Leger on August 16, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
Ich bin der Mann.    ;D
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Josh Boggs on August 16, 2010, 06:18:09 PM
"Parlez-vous Francais?
Oui!
Parlez-vous Francais?
Oui!
Si tu peux le parler allez tombez la chemise"

Learn French. You'll get all the bitches if you learn French.
you're 14...you aint getting NO bitches for a while lol ;D
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Ethan Nicholson on August 16, 2010, 07:26:02 PM
you're 14...you aint getting NO bitches for a while lol ;D

I feel abnormally cock blocked :/
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: hfksla on August 16, 2010, 07:31:45 PM
you're 14...you aint getting NO bitches for a while lol ;D
show us 14 year old some respect! :P
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Andrew Wilson on August 16, 2010, 11:19:10 PM
Nihongo wo hanashimasune?
Nihon no onna no hitotachi wa subarashii desuyo!
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Josh Boggs on August 17, 2010, 03:25:25 AM
I feel abnormally cock blocked :/
hahah xD im jk dude. if you can, then go for it.
show us 14 year old some respect! :P
lol :p
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Fecteau on August 17, 2010, 06:22:46 AM
NEIN DU!
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: hfksla on August 17, 2010, 08:52:08 AM
SEIG HEIL!
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 17, 2010, 02:45:40 PM
Nihongo wo hanashimasune?
Nihon no onna no hitotachi wa subarashii desuyo!
I would but Ima hold off on anything that requires learning new characters (except Russian since they are simpler). I decided that when peaking into Farsi (a friend I work with is from Iran) and the RTL didn't help :P. Japanese is definitely on my list though.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: hfksla on August 17, 2010, 02:51:05 PM
абцдефгчийклмнопярстувшхыз
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 17, 2010, 04:00:09 PM
абцдефгчийклмнопярстувшхыз
Yea, but still easier than learning the crapload of glyphs for Japanese (how many are actually for the modern, "most current" Japanese?). It's still similar to our Latin-based characters which are easier to recognize and remember, at least for me. Plus, I see a trip to Europe more likely than a trip to Japan/China at the moment.

Idk... maybe not haha
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: hfksla on August 17, 2010, 04:26:32 PM
哭ㄕ ㄎㄇㄊㄊ


ㄎㄋㄨㄇㄜ
ㄎㄋㄇㄎ在 工在 基苛左在基
工要在械在工枯工在和

(doesnt mean anything i just pressed a bunch of shit after activating the chinese keyboard :D
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Josh Boggs on August 17, 2010, 05:08:50 PM
konichiwa?
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 17, 2010, 06:03:56 PM
Nobody's helping... lol.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Fecteau on August 18, 2010, 06:30:38 AM
How do we help if you're teaching yourself German?
We're not teaching you.
Because we're  8) like that.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 18, 2010, 08:33:56 AM
No, I'm trying to workout what language will be best to learn next.

I can't decide what other language to add in though. I could finish up my Spanish, or I could do it World War style.... use English to conquer German, German to conquer French, English to conquer Japanese... though I want to fit Italian in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Ryan Nicolai on August 18, 2010, 08:42:39 PM
I'm learning Japanese. I have the Instant Immersion software and "My Japanese Coach" on the DS.

The Katakana and Hiragana really aren't too difficult if you put in the time. It's been a little while but I still remember most of the characters. Obviously, Kanji is the main killer here.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Andrew Wilson on August 18, 2010, 11:19:49 PM
Yeah, really, its not the hiragana or katakana that are difficult. You learn them pretty fast when trying to read them.
The only real hard part is sentence structure. If you can get past that obstacle, its just the usual memorizing words and phrases to hook together.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 19, 2010, 08:49:24 AM
I have a few friends that have taken Japanese... aren't the sentences somewhat formulaic? Like you pretty much always put the verb, DO, object, etc in a certain order?

And, say if you were to go to Japan... like what language(s)/alphabets(s) do they primarily use? Like, which do they [mainly] write on signs and product labels and stuff like that? Is it regional?

Danke schön ;D
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Ryan Nicolai on August 19, 2010, 11:15:19 AM
Yes. In English it's SVO((Subject-Verb-Object)). In Nihongo((Japanese)) it's SOV((Subject-Object-Verb)). I'm no master in the language so I won't be giving any examples to avoid any possible mistakes.

Hiragana is the alphabet for Japanese speech. So if I were to say, "Konnichiwa", I would use Hiragana.
Katakana is the alphabet for every other speech. So if I were to say, "Hello" or "Hola", I would use Katakana.

I have read that most signs are in Hiragana and will often have English in small print. This is also the same for most large restaurants and shops.

Much of Japanese is regional for most of the aging class, especially in the island areas away from the Mainland. I have read that Japanese is mostly constant among the younger generations.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Andrew Wilson on August 19, 2010, 11:43:31 PM
English - The Teacher is writing on paper
Japanese - The teacher, paper he is writing on
               Sensei wa kami no kikimasu (I believe)
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Tex__ on August 20, 2010, 12:05:08 AM
No, I'm trying to workout what language will be best to learn next.

  i suggest you finish up your Spanish, then do your original idea.

when you say Spanish do you mean real Spanish or class room Spanish?
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: A on August 20, 2010, 02:26:08 AM
Learn to speak Klingon. http://www.kli.org/
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Ryan Nicolai on August 20, 2010, 06:13:54 AM
English - The Teacher is writing on paper
Japanese - The teacher, paper he is writing on
               Sensei wa kami no kikimasu (I believe)

I believe that is correct.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Tex__ on August 20, 2010, 08:23:12 AM
Learn to speak Klingon. http://www.kli.org/


win
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 20, 2010, 08:49:16 AM
  i suggest you finish up your Spanish, then do your original idea.

when you say Spanish do you mean real Spanish or class room Spanish?
Well, real Spanish as much as I can. I could easily get the immersion by working on one of the local farms... but I'm not going to, so I'll do what I can. I did do Spanish in high-school for 3 years and still remember a good amount, though it doesn't even compare to the understanding I would need to actually live  in it.


Learn to speak Klingon. http://www.kli.org/
Nah... Na'vi is where it's at http://www.learnnavi.org/
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Josh Boggs on August 24, 2010, 04:51:53 PM
i think English is best... :P
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 24, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
Haha... being multilingual has always been a desire of mine.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Jordan B on August 24, 2010, 08:54:44 PM
I took four years of German and two years of french and one year of farsi, so at one point i was taking three languages at the same time. it was alot of fun, and actually not too hard. you should take french. its a great language to know since parkour originated in france and especially if you plan on maybe making a "pilgrimage" to lisses at some point of your life. Also its just a beautiful and fun language. If you need any help with german let me know! I excelled quite well, it almost came naturally to me.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Ryan Nicolai on August 24, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
Knowing French would have come in handy when I talked with Yann. It's a goal of mine.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Alec Furtado on August 25, 2010, 12:10:03 PM
I took four years of German and two years of french and one year of farsi, so at one point i was taking three languages at the same time. it was alot of fun, and actually not too hard. you should take french. its a great language to know since parkour originated in france and especially if you plan on maybe making a "pilgrimage" to lisses at some point of your life. Also its just a beautiful and fun language. If you need any help with german let me know! I excelled quite well, it almost came naturally to me.
Well French is on the list without question, I just don't see it as a priority since I don't see myself going to France anytime soon (but I WILL go eventually).


I wonder if it would be easier to study French and Spanish/Portuguese if I first got a handle on Italian since it's closest to Latin (I think?). 'Cuz it seems logical that languages that are closer together might seem faster to learn... though it might backfire if they are close together since it could be confusing which is which... ?
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Rebecca Myers on September 03, 2010, 08:11:09 AM
I wrote on your wall on facebook but I'll say it here, too.

Ich hab' 5 jahr Deutsch gelernt und letzten Sommer bin ich ein Monat da geblieb'. Frag mich ob du helfe brauchen oder will etwas ueben!

(I took 5 years of German and last summer I stayed there for a month. Ask me if you need help or want to practice something.)

Also: Whoever said that Nazi crap earlier, even as a joke, it's not cool.
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Hafer on September 03, 2010, 11:21:56 AM
Achtoliba! Sprechen deutch!?! Kuhl! Ich have deutche I'm Schule. Was ist Los meiner frunde?!?!
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Rebecca Myers on September 04, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Achtoliba! Sprechen deutch!?! Kuhl! Ich have deutche I'm Schule. Was ist Los meiner frunde?!?!

Sprechst du Deutsch? Kuehl! Ich lerne Deutsch in der Schule. Was ist los?

I couldn't resist, haha. How long have you taken German?
Title: Re: Teaching myself German
Post by: Hafer on September 05, 2010, 06:55:32 AM
Two years, but my iPod changes some things because of spellcheck, and I'm a bit rusty, but oh well haha.