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Title: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Derek broussard on December 14, 2009, 06:44:08 PM
  Well I  Ran the marathon yesterday.. After all the talk I did about going no shoes, it was time to shut up and walk the walk or should I say run the run. Planning to run a marathon is a little intimidating. I had not "trained" for a marathon and had only started barefooting about three months  ago and possibly logged 32 miles in that time. My biggest worry was the heat, forcast called for 82 degs and clear sky. I figure that equals to some hot pavement
   a day before the race, my friends paul and jared, and myself decided to have a little wager, 20 dollars each goes to the winner of the three. None of us where prepared so it was some good motivation later on.
  Here is a map of the course
  Pre race was interesting,  Woke up at 2Am, drove to town and scavenged for parking, once I finally found parking I headed to the staging area.  Staging area was packed. 23 thousand runners cram into the road from pi'ikoi st down to the ala wai.
  I spent this time walking around looking for the other two, Eating my raw potatoe, and explaining why I was barefoot.
  Start-6 miles. {49:24} (
     - With so much people running its hard to start slow. Everyone starts off fast, including me. I was having fun weaving and passing through people. 
      -The roads are lined up with spectators, That cheer on the runners... all of them like to state the obvious about my lack of foot ware,  For the next 6 miles the "music" I run to is the silent unchoreographed chant of No shoes.
      -Since I have smooth pavement and cool temps I decide to push a little harder so that I have less distance to cover when the ground gets hot.
      -  Once your at the zoo the smell of elephant shit brings out some primal urges to run,  Which quickly faded with the cracked chipseeled rd
    -All that bouncing around to avoid the rough spots had made my lack of shoes pretty noticeable to the other runners. And a few conversations are started.
    - But the hill(diamond head with a 130ft E. gain) is coming up, its pretty much the only hill on the course, and I love hills so I excuse my conversation and dominate the hill. passing a lot of people in the process.
   - Ooops bad move. My quads are tired and I can feel my legs get heavy-
   - Downhill barefoot SUCKS.
  9-11  (
   -smooth roads.
   -suns starting to rise,
   - closer to the mall some crowds start to cheer, They even have a live rock band.
mile 11-15.  Kalanianaole Hwy  {half way 1:54:49}
    - This is a Very boring streach of highway.
    - Pain is setting in and its becoming hard to distract my self.
   - 2 miles in the first wheel chair racer blazes past heading to the finish line, shortly after the first runner.
   _ overall I am having some fairly intense pain in my knees. WTF? I thought BFING was suppose to prevent knee pain.  After about a mile I realize its because i'm compensating for the my quads and locking my knees.  I have to consciously focus on my form or else i'm brutally reminded
  mile 15-18 {3:00:02}
   - was mostly worried about hawaii kai terrain wise. It is a very rough road.
    - To my luck I was able to run the entire loop on the side walk.
    - Hawaii kai is a fairly "well heeled"(pun intended) community. You would not believe some of the looks I got. One lady looked at me as if I was running naked while doing the helicopter!
   - I obviously slowed down alot... im running at a 10 min mile pace. Aargg
   - my feet and ankles are pretty numb, I have no to little control of my running form.
   - I run into pauls wife Jen. she was nice enough to walk outside her house and take some photos of us.
   - ask where paul is, Jen says he is behind me but not by much.
   - I know im about out of gas and its only a matter of time  but I try to push a little harder.
   Paul gets his status report and the hunt is on, im now his prey.
   - im constantly looking behind my shoulders. I know that my lead wont last.
    -  about 2 miles later I see Paul. Weaving around people, fresh, in his posture you can see an animal on the hunt.
     - I push harder.  I  maybe its ploy. When he catches up he signs "how are your feet?". I mistake  it for "how are you?" and tell him I hurt. Everything hurts but my feet are not the worse and not the reason im running so slow.
     - Its still possible for both of us to make  a sub 4 hour. Im moving too slow and tell paul to push ahead. that was a good bit of distraction too bad it didnt last.
    - A cute female runs up to my side and tells me that its amazing im barefoot. 
  22-24  back through kahala
 - four more miles... still havn't cramped, if I don't stop i'm good. MUST, FIGHT, THROUGH, the PAIN...
 -people are starting to drop. More motivation to keep pushing.
  - water station and my last gu..
24-25 daimond head
  This is the back side of daimond head, and I dont think it is as steep.
  - even still my love for hills is nowhere to be seen. I keep pushing trying to focus on the waves breaking below me.
 - down hill I have to move slow to avoid the painfull locking of knees
  - the bottom of DH the road is horrible so I hoped on the sidewalk.
  - A fat female cop sees me and tells me to get back on the road, that the side walk is for walkers and crampers to step on.. I ignore her and keep going. She hops on her police issued by and catches up. and tells me to get off and that she is going to follow me the rest of the way. I ask her what her name and badge number are. She ignores the question. I ask three more times. The only answer I got was that  she's "following orders"
   -she gets tired and and dissapears.
   - last half mile to the finish. I hop on the median which is grass. and SPRINT to the finish. balls to the wall.
   4 hours and 32 min.
 My feet where pretty good.   on the bus home I counted two small blisters on each  foot.  4 hours later and I have four large blood blisters on one foot. (
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Ozzi on December 14, 2009, 09:42:04 PM
Good work my man. I will be putting this on front page some times this week if ok with you of course.
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Cody Goodman on December 14, 2009, 10:34:12 PM
nice man! this is amazing with no preparation.. and I f'ing know that feeling after you've been running for a while, then see a big long patch of grass, and start sprinting as soon as you hit it. Simply amazing, lol.
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: cranialpk on December 15, 2009, 01:13:58 AM
Hey man.  I don't think weve met before since I havent been on in awhile but congrats on your run.  Its pretty amazing to hear someone doing a marathon barefoot.  Ive wanted to try running long distance barefoot for sometime but have never gotten around to it.  hope to see you around sometime
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Gregg HIPK on December 15, 2009, 01:49:17 AM
Congrats on your finish, Derek.

Honolulu is a nice marathon. Good crowd, even at start time... nice mostly flat course, too many other runners.
Form looks good, even late into the race [compared to 30222 behind you, who looks like he'd been dead a while]

Keep us updated on your condition.
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: naturalninja on December 15, 2009, 08:36:25 AM
you legendary legend!
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: naturalninja on December 18, 2009, 07:43:25 AM
btw why were you eating raw potato?:S
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Derek broussard on December 18, 2009, 10:52:26 AM
btw why were you eating raw potato?:S

 ninja: I prefer to stay on a paleo diet. Potatoes have the highest glycemic rate out of almost any food. I think it equals to around two plus bowls of pasta. Raw just because its easy to cary around and munch on.
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: naturalninja on December 18, 2009, 01:23:09 PM
but raw potato is poisonous and i thought not usually included in a paleo diet
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Derek broussard on December 18, 2009, 01:39:53 PM
Raw potatoes are NOT poisonous. I've had two medical dr. Specializing in nutrition confirm this.  Raw roots including beats radish and potatoes probably played a huge roll in our ancesters pre hunt meals
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: naturalninja on December 19, 2009, 10:53:29 AM

well if i had a pipe id put that in it and smoke it

EDIT: id have to smoke too...
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Gregg HIPK on December 19, 2009, 03:05:52 PM
From ...

Potatoes contain toxic compounds known as glycoalkaloids, of which the most prevalent are solanine and chaconine. Solanine is also found in other plants in the family solanaceae, which includes such plants as the deadly nightshade (Atropa belladonna), henbane (Hyoscyamus niger) and tobacco (Nicotiana) as well as the potato, eggplant and tomato. This poison affects the nervous system causing weakness and confusion.

These compounds, which protect the plant from its predators, are generally concentrated in its leaves, stems, sprouts, and fruits.[54] Exposure to light, physical damage, and age increase glycoalkaloid content within the tuber;[55] the highest concentrations occur just underneath the skin. Cooking at high temperatures (over 170 °C or 340 °F) partly destroys these. The concentration of glycoalkaloid in wild potatoes suffices to produce toxic effects in humans. Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps and in severe cases coma and death; however, poisoning from potatoes occurs very rarely. Light exposure causes greening from chlorophyll synthesis, thus giving a visual clue as to areas of the tuber that may have become more toxic; however, this does not provide a definitive guide, as greening and glycoalkaloid accumulation can occur independently of each other. Some varieties of potato contain greater glycoalkaloid concentrations than others; breeders developing new varieties test for this, and sometimes have to discard an otherwise promising cultivar.
The toxic fruits produced by mature potato plants

Breeders try to keep solanine levels below 200 mg/kg (200 ppmw). However, when these commercial varieties turn green, even they can approach concentrations of solanine of 1000 mg/kg (1000 ppmw). In normal potatoes, analysis has shown solanine levels may be as little as 3.5% of the breeders' maximum, with 7–187 mg/kg being found.[56]

The US National Toxicology Program suggests that the average American consumes at most 12.5 mg/day of solanine from potatoes (the toxic dose is actually several times this, depending on body weight). Dr. Douglas L. Holt, the State Extension Specialist for Food Safety at the University of Missouri, notes that no reported cases of potato-source solanine poisoning have occurred in the U.S. in the last 50 years and most cases involved eating green potatoes or drinking potato-leaf tea.
Title: Re: Honolulu marathon Barefoot
Post by: Derek broussard on December 19, 2009, 07:32:11 PM
potato-leaf tea???

"notes that no reported cases of potato-source solanine poisoning have occurred in the U.S. in the last 50 years and most cases involved eating green potatoes or drinking potato-leaf tea."
 from other sources
"Potatoes (like tomatoes) contain poison in the stems and leaves – and even in the potato itself IF left to turn green"

Hostetler MA, Schneider SM. Poisonous plants.
"Potatoes that are not green and have had any sprouts removed are safe to eat."

" Thus a 160-pound adult would have to consume at least 160 mg, before starting to experience symptoms.  How much mg of solanine in potatoes?  Less than 50 mg per pound of potato.  That means eating more than four pounds of potatoes with skin could start a possible reaction

   Im not going to eat 4lbs of potato, especially before I run (down an animal).

 SO the answer .  A potato is NOT poisonous