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« on: October 08, 2011, 07:22:45 PM »
So it seems that according to certain mods it's ok to have religion in your signatures and bible verses and crap. And as long as we're not converting we can discuss it.

So, discuss.

I myself am an atheist. I won't try and convert you. But if you want to discuss it, let's talk in this thread.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 07:24:15 PM »
I am an Atheist myself. I could give you tons of different supporting reasons but we can just leave it like that. I try to love everyone though - it doesn't matter what you believe.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 07:47:35 PM »
I'm agnostic because I don't think you can really prove one way or the other that there's any sort of higher power.

... though I frequently get accused of being anti-Christian because I argue pretty forcefully against making laws out of religious principles. ^_-
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Re: Religion
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2011, 08:14:25 PM »
I believe in God and The Bible and Heaven and Hell and Satan and demons and such, but I love listening to others points of views and beliefs. It doesnt change my own personal faith, and it lets me ask plenty of questions so I can understand why they believe what they do. I am not christian or any other religion at all nor am I agnostic. I dont like people who outright refuse to discuss other religions and such nor do I like religious fanatics.

I could honestly go on and on about things I dont like about religious people, but I'll be cordial ^_^
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Re: Religion
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2011, 08:51:06 PM »
I'm Catholic, but it can be confusing and makes me a little doubtful sometimes. But it's good to believe in something imo, I can't really believe that once you're gone you just fall asleep, turn into a squirrel, etc., or at least I hope not.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2011, 09:45:08 PM »
I'm somewhere on the border of Atheist and Agnostic.  Do I believe in god? no.  But when i'm being philosophical with my friends and we're just coming up with, or debating different possible points of view do some of the things seem impossible?  no, just extremely improbable.

As Donnie Darko says, " I've just never seen any proof so I... I just don't debate it anymore, you know? It's like I could spend my whole life debating it over and over again, weighing the pros and cons and in the end I still wouldn't have any proof so I just... I just don't debate it anymore."

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Re: Religion
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2011, 11:50:39 PM »
I'm agnostic because I don't think you can really prove one way or the other that there's any sort of higher power.
You'd be surprised at what I am, but this is a main point. At least according to the "higher-ups."  Both "sides" affirm that since you cannot prove it proves their stance.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2011, 05:29:31 AM »
I believe in myself.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2011, 08:24:39 AM »
I believe in myself.

I'm don't belong to any religion at heart. I'm confirmed, but that was more for my parents than anything.
I don't call myself atheist because that assumes a belonging to a group. My belief is that religion as a whole is stupid, it only causes war and bullshit discussion.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2011, 08:50:29 AM »
You'd be surprised at what I am, but this is a main point. At least according to the "higher-ups."  Both "sides" affirm that since you cannot prove it proves their stance.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 09:31:20 AM »
I'm Mormon (and just to head things off: Yes, I believe in Christ; No, I do not sacrifice babies [or goats], burn cross, worship the devil, have devil horns, or am a polygamist. Or any other of a dozen things I've been accused of to my face :-Sarcasm ).

There were a few years in my life where I wasn't sure what I was or believed, or if I believed anything at all. But my life started falling apart in a huge way, and that's when I discovered what I truly was. My religion pulled me out of the darkest place in my life and I haven't looked back.

but I love listening to others points of views and beliefs. It doesnt change my own personal faith, and it lets me ask plenty of questions so I can understand why they believe what they do.
Same here. Couldn't put it better myself.

And I'm with Kyle. Not going to try an convert people, but open to discuss.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 11:12:10 AM »
I believe in myself.

the good ol "me, myself, and I" hm?
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Re: Religion
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 11:51:40 AM »
I'm Mormon (and just to head things off: Yes, I believe in Christ; No, I do not sacrifice babies [or goats], burn cross, worship the devil, have devil horns, or am a polygamist. Or any other of a dozen things I've been accused of to my face :-Sarcasm ).

There were a few years in my life where I wasn't sure what I was or believed, or if I believed anything at all. But my life started falling apart in a huge way, and that's when I discovered what I truly was. My religion pulled me out of the darkest place in my life and I haven't looked back.
Same here. Couldn't put it better myself.

And I'm with Kyle. Not going to try an convert people, but open to discuss.

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I've read the Bible multiple times as well as the Torah, Bhagavad-Gita, Qu'ran, Satanist Bible, and the Mūlasarvāstivāda.

I have yet to read The Book of Mormon however.
But I have to ask.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 11:56:27 AM »
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Re: Religion
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2011, 12:00:11 PM »
I have nothing to convert anyone to. Either you believe in God or you dont. Simple as that. If a person wont listen to God when he talks to them everyday of their lives, then what would make me think me talking to them about God will suddenly change their minds. The beauty of free will is that we arent forced to do something we dont want to. That being the case I wont disrespect God by trying to force someone to change their views. If a person doesnt believe in God or The Bible and he isnt interested in believing him I wont even waste my energy on that person, you cant make a person change they have to want to first. Instead I'll go to the one who's interested but unsure and wants to learn. Just my feelings on the subject.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2011, 12:19:46 PM »
It's called faith. Sometimes you don't always have the necessary proof and facts to know whether something is right or wrong, real or fake, and so on.

What I've learned is that people created religions and beliefs in order to understand the world around them before they had technology and ways to scientifically prove things such as why the sky is blue, why day turns to night, and where spiders came from. Maybe I mixed that up with mythology, but it's basically a shared concept on how our world came to be, whatever religion you have.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2011, 02:30:49 PM »
I'm an agnostic, but I like the beliefs and philosophies of buddhism. I don't like christianity so much. There's nothing wrong with it's beliefs or ideals, but the vatican has censored the bible much that I don't really trust it. I also don't think parents should force they're religion on their kids. You can teach them the basics of religion but they have the right choose what to believe in. Treat religion like you treat your penis. Don't show it off in public and don't shove it down your kids throat.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2011, 02:36:38 PM »
My phone did something weird last time so I'll try this again.

I am Mormon as well. And that video that Kyle put up is so far from what we believe.

I believe in my beliefs. But am one that thinks everyone is entitled to believe what they want as long as it doesn't hurt, or disrespect others.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2011, 04:24:15 PM »
My phone did something weird last time so I'll try this again.

I am Mormon as well. And that video that Kyle put up is so far from what we believe.

I believe in my beliefs. But am one that thinks everyone is entitled to believe what they want as long as it doesn't hurt, or disrespect others.
I wasn't asking if it is what "you believe". You'll find billions of Christians that don't use the Bible for crap but still believe in Jesus and whatnot. What am I asking is, is that what is written in The Book of Mormon? I have yet to read it.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2011, 04:54:39 PM »
I'll PM ya what is in it. Don't wanna get too deep into it on the site.