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Offline Matthew Lee Willis

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New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« on: April 29, 2011, 08:39:13 AM »
Currently a group of us from around the US are starting a new Non-Profit, to help continue the Parkour philosophy in a way that is conducive for everyone that trains Parkour.  We would like to highlight Parkour specific campaigns such as Leave No Trace, Building Parkour parks by working with local communities/governments and one of our favorite, community creation.  Having trained myself for over 6 years here in Texas, we see communities come and go.  They grow or do the opposite, hurt the foundation of Parkour our just themselves.  The non-profit will strive to put information for all of the campaigns out in the world.

Many of the groups and people already involved with this project have been inspired by and trained with Parkour Generations and Yamakazi time and time again.  PK Gen and Yamakazi teach proper techniques, they show the heart involved in making the discipline great and they bring great legitimacy to Parkour everywhere.

We wont be able to do it without you.  We need you, the community to stand behind ideas and become a part of the cause, if not this one, any cause that helps Parkour.  We would like members of this community and admins of the community to share their thoughts, good or bad (honestly) on a community based on these ideas.  We are already talking with American Parkour to find what they can donate to the program.  They have donated time, Thank you Mark, and their wonderful hotspot map.  The website will include information for all communities.  We will have an academic section for students to use as references on school projects.  We will have maps of where to train and contact people in your area.   Most of all our campaigns will show you how you can become a part of making Parkour important in your city.  Do you have something to offer, donate to the cause that you feel everyone should have access?  Parkour Injury articles, Student Papers, tutorials etc.  Bring them.

In return you will become apart of another community here in the US that will bring legitimacy on a local, state and national level.  We are currently finalizing mission statements, campaigns and the guidelines for the organization.  If you would like to become apart of the grassroots, let us know.

Email - parkourfed@gmail.com  Thank you.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 09:31:19 AM »
I'd like to say that for me, "a group of us form the US" isn't what we're looking for here - we want this to be worldwide, to include as many views, perspectives, and voices as possible, all on an equal footing - in other words one vote per active member, active members can be anyone, but we want to get as many community leaders involved as possible.

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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 12:26:11 PM »
The best way to legitimize Parkour is by spreading it and its message one person at a time.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 01:09:58 PM »
I think what he's getting at is having an actual organization; like the World Wildlife Foundation, American Heart Association, and Autism Speaks.  They're national non-profit organizations based on a specific idea or goal.  Or that's what I got out of it anyway.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2011, 01:32:27 PM »
Well yes, I was trying not to be too picky, personally I don't feel parkour needs ot be legitimized - but that a worldwide org could do a lot of good - especially if we all stop bickering and try to work towards positive goals for parkour!
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2011, 02:14:24 PM »
The only issues to be concerned with are all regarding if the organization would represent the practitioners, or if they would simply delegate a personal viewpoint.  As has been proven time and again here, we don't all see eye-to-eye on every subject.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2011, 04:19:58 PM »
@Joshua Sikes Right.  WWF does not rule the forest, they help protect it and lobby to make a difference ;)

@Mark We would love to get together to really make a WORLD WIDE organization, but we have chosen to stay small, until we get the influential people that we need.  That being said.  If we can't (10 pushups for saying that word) get this off the ground in at least a couple states or in the US, it means, that we don't need it, at least right now.

@Joe Brock We are writing in that members of the organization will have as much voting rights as any other practitioner.  You have a vote.  The will be guided by the practitioners.  If that does not seem to be happen...I say REVOLT!
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 05:50:23 PM »
I'd like to have a real organization, like what the WFPF was supposed to be. They took the name, but I don't really see them doing anything with the title, other than the MTV show.

Plus they kinda lose their legitimacy when the end every facebook post with "PARKOUR!!!!!!".

Would love to help support this in whatever way you need besides monetary, as I have very little of that.



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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 08:08:02 PM »
This sounds incredible.  It would be fantastic to actually have an organization to do this, as parkour is pretty much unofficial as of now with the exception of the WFPF, APK etc.  We don't have much to actually show that parkour is legitimate, with official organizations to show that it's an actual organized activity that people participate in worldwide.  Having something like this, to say "you can reference this as the official resource for Parkour" would definately allow it to be more accepted and known in the public, rather than just saying "we do this for fun, but its not really official, but there's a big community, and we all get along".  You know what I mean?  We need people, leaders and organizations to show that Parkour isn't just a reckless activity and that it can be official.

I would love to help out in this, and I have a little experience in leadership, teaching, etc.  I'm only in 11th grade though and can't really travel independantly so I don't know what I can actively do, but it would be awesome if I could somehow do something to help out from where I live in CT.  You can contact me @ shyampkfr@gmail.com :)

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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2011, 10:54:25 AM »
Dont get me wrong, the people in the WFPF are amazing athletes but It says right on their banner A Parkour Social Network for People who Move.  But honestly, they are just a performance team.  I dont know if they were ever suppose to be anything different.  Let me know if you know something ;)

@Scott B & Shay Glad you would like to be on board.  Again, email us along with your long impressive list of skills, ambitions available times and we can put to work and even voting soon.  Thanks again.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2011, 04:17:14 PM »
I like this. I'd love to help out. I'm trying to publish a book with stories on how Parkour changed each individual. Here is the thread.

If there is anything I can do, let me know. I also have my own Parkour Clothing company, Asphalt Science, & I have a love of Parkour that I can't really explain and I'd love to help. At the moment, I work more than train and can't really travel yet.


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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2011, 07:51:39 PM »
Well, a few people have said something to the effect of "what WFPF should be" ... what should it be? What do you want from an organization?
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2011, 07:52:55 PM »
Oh, and Matthew, in our conversation I addressed my concern with "starting in the Us" - if we do that before making global open invites, then the group already will appear to have a bias ... which I completely don't want.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2011, 07:25:28 AM »
I think what I'd like is more of an actual, relevant institution relating more towards talking to local cities, police stations, and having voting options for the parkour community in general over certain issues related to this. I think it would be cool to have a real, national jam that was partially supported by a city, which would be relative to this organization.

The WFPF are cool and all...but what have they done that APK hasn't? They made a shoe and a tv show...but APK made a TV show and also supports Leave No Trace, local traceurs, and all kinds of other stuff, so in reality, what does that title mean? It's another site, which is fine, but it's not something like a real organization yet. Heck, maybe if this gets off the ground it could partner with the WFPF, that would work.

Btw, that email isn't working for me, so here is mine instead:

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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2011, 09:12:45 AM »
Oh, and Matthew, in our conversation I addressed my concern with "starting in the Us" - if we do that before making global open invites, then the group already will appear to have a bias ... which I completely don't want.

That completely. And I'll trust Mark's prediction pretty readily tbh.



As a corollary (and Mark, this is something we could start currently), I feel it would be not only awesome but also critical to start some sort of affiliation program. I'm in lengthy negotiations with Santa Clara University right now to figure out how we can operate on campus. An affiliation program would add a little more faith for the administration in accepting such a grossly unknown/misunderstood activity (the administration has directly expressed interest in that), especially if it allows them to see the success of parkour programs at other universities/colleges. The only part I'm unsure about is how APK or whatever other organization would verify the qualifications of the applying group.
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2011, 01:25:38 PM »
Modify: I may be confused so I removed my post.

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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2011, 06:37:31 PM »
First Aid and CPR certified would probably help and can cost as low as $60-$80 for basic training. All APK Academy and Primal Fitness instructors are required to have basic first aid and CPR certs.

As for insurance, we're working on it. There is a possibility that APK may soon be able to offer a Parkour Practitioner Insurance policy, just like a skiing policy.

There are pluses and minuses to becoming more organized, for example, (B)East Coast will be officially sponsored by American Parkour this year. Because of that, anyone wishing to participate, even training outdoors for free, will need to sign a waiver. If they don't sign a waiver and get a wrist band (free) then they won't be considered to be attending the event. There is no cost to the participant for this. This doesn't mean that APK's insurance is necessarily covering anyone, and in fact5 it will not cover the 200+ expected participants. Primal Fitness' insurance will cover people when they are in the gym (same waiver covers gym activities).
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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2011, 08:57:32 PM »
By sponsoring the "jam" or "event" doesnt that automatically imply that you(APK LLC?) could be held liable ?  isnt that why most "sponsors" or event coordinators require certificate of additional ins?

That seems risky.  And if something bad happens, you have to make the jury believe that you werent in charge of the event right?

The organization seems like a cool if not a wicked bold move.  Like the silverstein poem about the girl eating the whale, it can be done.  Reminds me of the old "PKNA Council" that thought they were out to change the entire parkour world... until everyone tried to eat eachother. 

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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2011, 09:02:38 PM »
An organization is cool, as long as it is run by the right people.

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Re: New Organization to Legitimize Parkour
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2011, 09:08:14 PM »
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By sponsoring the "jam" or "event" doesnt that automatically imply that you(APK LLC?) could be held liable ?  isnt that why most "sponsors" or event coordinators require certificate of additional ins?

Yes, could being the key word, the waiver will basically take care of that, and if someone was injured, they would have to prove that not only was it the fault of APK, but that it was due to willful gross negligence of APK, which would be pretty difficult as APK always stresses safety and responsibility, and expressly states that each person's safety is primarily their own responsibility.

All that being said, APK is part of the community and is here for the community, so we are happy to be in a position to officially sponsor a jam, and we hope to have a great jam and use this as an example of running a good event. We will use our (planned) success to help contact authorities and gain permissions for events like these and use that to help others to organize events where we can hopefully train and jam without any conflict with property owners or authorities.

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