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Making a choice between two sports.
« on: March 04, 2011, 01:49:28 PM »
 I love Parkour, it's really the first activity I felt comfortable in after trying football, basketball, baseball, etc. and I've been hooked for almost 2 years now. But now I'm swimming and honestly I think I like it just as much as Parkour, which is where my dilemma is. I know I'll never be a member of The Tribe or be sponsored by Urban Freeflow in a million years, but with swimming (and I don't want this to sound like I'm bragging) I'm actually good at it. I'm coming close to breaking a minuet in my 100 breaststroke and I'm swimming 26 seconds in the 50 freestyle and this is only my first year of doing it. I know there are a ton of swimmers much better than me and its a slim chance I'll ever make the Olympic or World Championship time trials, but I think if I dedicate a lot of time to my club team and my varsity highschool team and in college later on there's a possibility I could make it. So I guess I'm going to have to make a choice on whether I want to dedicate all my time to swimming and chase after my goals in that or do both and still be able to do Parkour, but kinda give up on my goals in swimming.

So to not just make this a blog, I guess I'll ask you guys what you think about this, and if anyone has a similar experience, what choice did you make?
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 02:11:22 PM »
Either way, it's up to you really. We can give you all the advice in the world, but when it comes down to it, it needs to be your decision or you won't be content with it. When making decisions like this, remember your priorities, your passions, and your purpose. Think about that. What are you hoping to get out of sports/physical activity? What are you going to look back on 10 years from now, and say "I'm glad I spent my time doing that." If it's either one, great, but if you feel that one will make a greater impact then that might have some bearing on things. Use your gifts, but remember that you can't always use all of them and what you are best at may or may not end up being the best thing for you to do.

And when you do decide, go with it. Don't second guess yourself or wonder what *might* have happened. You can't change the past you can only learn from it.
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 02:21:11 PM »
This brings up an interesting point which I think about often.

To start, I can already hear most if not all of my protagonists answers, and I'm sure they'll jump in first, which always slightly amuses me :)

One of the "problems" with parkour is that there are no set, standard, defined goals. People LIKE to feel good at something and people naturally want something to compare to to see how they are doing.

Because Parkour doesn't have these, it leaves out a lot of people who may otherwise keep training.
(Protagonist 1- "people shouldn't need external motivation")
(M2 - shouldn't - but DO)

Because these benchmarks don't exist in parkour, it is hard to say what is "better" or who is doing "well"
(Protagonist 2 - people should only do parkour for themselves, not to compare to other people")
(M2 - But people DO compare themselves to other people)

Also because these benchmarks don't exist, it is hard to have a conversation with someone who has not trained in your area - in parkour it seems to be "I konged that gap at the water fountain" - metrics which can only be compared to people who visit the same water fountain.


As much as we say (and I believe too) that it is the movement and the training that are important, people are social creatures and LIKE to have a way to communicate with others -
(Protagonists 3 and 4 - "But we don't NEED names for everything, just call it passement", and "we don't need definitions, it's all just movement)
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 02:40:55 PM »
It seems that M2 is finally fed up with people telling him he's just wrong. Good for him.

Anyway good luck with your choice. It sounds like it's gonna be tough.

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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 02:45:35 PM »
I'm going to blindly agree with M2 because I've been instructed to do so...

But seriously, this is entirely your call.  Just think about what you get out of the two, what do you enjoy about parkour? swimming? Sit (or better yet, go out and move) on that for a little while. I've found that the best way for me to decide in a case like this is to train in one of the options one day, then in the other the next, it can really help highlight what exactly you love/hate about each of them and can help you choose for the love of the sport rather than any ulterior motives.  Just my 2 cents, and I wish you the best of luck in your decision as well as all that follows.


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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 03:17:15 PM »
i just skimmed it so pardon me if i missed a detail or two but, unless you plan on getting a scholarship to college or going pro, i would choose parkour.

its more fulfilling, there are less rules, its free form so you can pick out what you want to work on (be it a strength or a weakness). its actually useful...  :P

team sports teach you how to function as a team but, if you can read what im writing you are bright enough to know how to work in a team. social skills can be worked on, if you REALLY need to pick parkour or a sport i would go parkour if like i said, you arent depending on a scholarship or going pro.

edit: just noticed its about swimming not team sports. honestly its a tough choice but, since you MOST likely wont go to the olympics (congrats on actually accepting that, most people are too thick headed to do so) i would look towards a college scholarship. getting a free ride through college working with some of the best physical trainers can HELP your parkour.

a lot of swimmers have shoulder issues with all the rotations they go through, however you will be VERY strong and well balanced (in terms of your body). which again is nothing but a benefit for parkour. remember you dont have a limited time frame with parkour, you can pick it up whenever you are ready. i wish i could say the same for sports, you just always end up fighting to win and not to perfect your movement or your body's weaknesses.

if you do choose swimming, do it differently than most. make every stroke count and every movement completely controlled, take the time to listen to your body so that when you come back to parkour you will have all the benefits of swimming without many of the negatives.
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 03:25:57 PM »
i just skimmed it so pardon me if i missed a detail or two but, unless you plan on getting a scholarship to college or going pro, i would choose parkour.

its more fulfilling, there are less rules, its free form so you can pick out what you want to work on (be it a strength or a weakness). its actually useful...  :P

team sports teach you how to function as a team but, if you can read what im writing you are bright enough to know how to work in a team. social skills can be worked on, if you REALLY need to pick parkour or a sport i would go parkour if like i said, you arent depending on a scholarship or going pro.



Max, you can't tell a person what is more fulfilling to their future aspirations. It is up to him whether what he wants to do. He is looking for guidance, not to hear what he enjoys or will enjoy.

That being said, Grayson. Do what you feel will get you farther in your life. Swimming is fun and is a healthy choice for a lifestyle. I say go for it! You don't have to give up on parkour, but I understand how much time you are willing to put into becoming the best you can be.
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 03:26:58 PM »
Ok so if you choose swimming you dont have to give up parkour. my friends that are on swim team do it in the morning so you could do it in the after noon. If it is in the afternoon it probably is not from when you get out of school to midnight and is it every day? is it on the weekends if not you can do it then. So from what I THINK is that you would still have plenty of time for parkour.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 04:03:03 PM »
Honestly I would do both, which ever one you like more dedicate more time to, but use the other as your.. "Weights."

In other words lets say you choose swimming. Work on swimming 3-4/7 days a week, then do parkour for like 2-3 days. The thing about parkour is it helps with almost everything you do physically AND mentally. When you do parkour, you learn to push yourself, to trust yourself. (VERY helpful in swimming) You also get better hand to eye coordination. You get stronger, which supports both. You get faster, again supporting both, You gain confidence (Supports both) You learn to do your best. You dont HAVE to cut out one. You can do more swimming then you do parkour, or more of parkour then swimming. You can also try and keep them both at the same. Have the best of luck.

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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 04:17:34 PM »
Parker is beter than everthin. I iz eleetist.


Dude, follow your passions. Failure isn't just not being able to do something or not finishing something, failure is leaving when you still have more to give. You don't need to reach any huge impressive goal necessarily, just give it your all in something you like.


Any yea, I don't see any reason why you couldn't do one (swimming) and a little bit of the other (parkour).
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 04:31:46 PM »
You decide your level of involvement. If I ride a skateboard that doesn't mean I can't just do it for fun and have other hobbies that are bigger parts of my life then skateboarding.
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 05:30:00 PM »
The problem with doing both is if I want to be at Olympic or even National level is I can't wake up and say "I'm really sore from training yesterday, I should take off today and tomorrow." The club I just tried out for goes 7 days a week and the coaches expect you to be at each practice which runs for about 2 1/2 hours in a long course pool. On top of that, varsity practice runs 1 1/2 hours after school and the rest of my schedule is usually filled with work or night classes for dual-credit. If I want to truly give swimming my all I'm just not going to be able to do Parkour, both because of my schedule and also the risk for injury is just too big, if I broke something and was out totally for 4 weeks it would set me back really far.

I appreciate you guy's comments, I've just got to think about what I really want to put most of my time into. Swimming, work, and school or Parkour, work and school.
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 06:02:24 PM »
Well, I just thought I'd offer my 2 cents, even though I'm basically a nobody.

I think at the end of the day, if you're willing to train hard in either, you're gonna achieve great things. You say you'll never be in the Tribe, or Urban Freeflow or be good enough so that Red Bull sponsors you (and be mocked by M2), but seriously, from your post, I'm gonna assume you're just < 18 years old, since you're still in high school.

Honestly ask yourself this, if you think you have a shot at the Olympics with swimming (no matter how slim the chances), do you think you cannot be as good some of the top practitioners currently, assuming you dedicate as much time and effort in your Parkour training as much as you swim? And I mean as much dedication as how a coach would push you in your swim team. I mean more serious then most 2 hours, 3 days a week traceur, like you said, at least 21/2 hours, 7 days a week.

Think about it, there are MUCH more aspiring swimmers to compete with then people who would dedicate so much time to train Parkour. How many of us, for example, train in hopes of becoming famous or to be among the top traceurs/freerunners? How many of us train as seriously as Olympic athletes?

Now that I've reasoned that it is probably not that much of a difference between becoming "pro" in swimming and Parkour, what will you gain at the end, if you don't make it, when you choose one activity? Well, if you choose swimming, at the end what you gain is the ability to swim really really fast, while if you do Parkour, at the end of the day, you'd be able to do a shit ton of cool stuff, not to mention be a more well-rounded athlete (l'm not knocking swimmers here, just saying with Parkour you gain agility, proprioception, balance and stuff like that)

Granted, if you choose swimming, you'd probably have a much higher chance of getting something like a college scholarship, however, Parkour has it's benefits too in this sense. If you decide to go into a physically demanding job like joining the army, firefighter, police, etc etc, Parkour would be much more useful (you'd already have decent enough swimming skills anyways). Not to mention the possibility of being a stuntmen, if the thought ever cross your mind.

So if you truly love Parkour and swimming equally, my vote goes to Parkour. Unless a college scholarship is REALLY important for you.

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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 06:59:40 PM »
Max, you can't tell a person what is more fulfilling to their future aspirations. It is up to him whether what he wants to do. He is looking for guidance, not to hear what he enjoys or will enjoy.

That being said, Grayson. Do what you feel will get you farther in your life. Swimming is fun and is a healthy choice for a lifestyle. I say go for it! You don't have to give up on parkour, but I understand how much time you are willing to put into becoming the best you can be.
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i didnt mean it like that but yeah, i should have left that part out. i guess i meant more freeing than other things, maybe not more fulfilling.

i think my edit offered plenty of guidance, refer to it please.


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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 09:51:18 PM »
This brings up an interesting point which I think about often.

To start, I can already hear most if not all of my protagonists answers, and I'm sure they'll jump in first, which always slightly amuses me :)

One of the "problems" with parkour is that there are no set, standard, defined goals. People LIKE to feel good at something and people naturally want something to compare to to see how they are doing.

Because Parkour doesn't have these, it leaves out a lot of people who may otherwise keep training.
(Protagonist 1- "people shouldn't need external motivation")
(M2 - shouldn't - but DO)

Because these benchmarks don't exist in parkour, it is hard to say what is "better" or who is doing "well"
(Protagonist 2 - people should only do parkour for themselves, not to compare to other people")
(M2 - But people DO compare themselves to other people)

Also because these benchmarks don't exist, it is hard to have a conversation with someone who has not trained in your area - in parkour it seems to be "I konged that gap at the water fountain" - metrics which can only be compared to people who visit the same water fountain.


As much as we say (and I believe too) that it is the movement and the training that are important, people are social creatures and LIKE to have a way to communicate with others -
(Protagonists 3 and 4 - "But we don't NEED names for everything, just call it passement", and "we don't need definitions, it's all just movement)
(M2 - Yes, we do need these things if we want to have a conversation with others, and we do need definitions to have meaningful conversations)


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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 11:12:54 PM »
Is there an off-season to swimming?  Can you pursue swimming 100% in-season, then re-approach parkour off-season?

Also... often times when we ask others for advice like this, we're only waiting for someone to tell us to do what we already know we want to do.  Your mind may already be made up.  It's natural to fear making the wrong decision, but give yourself permission to go for it.  Accept that you may be "making a mistake," but put everything you have into it and know that there is always a chance to make a different decision later.

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2011, 11:55:23 PM »
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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 12:36:07 AM »
Is there an off-season to swimming?  Can you pursue swimming 100% in-season, then re-approach parkour off-season?

Also... often times when we ask others for advice like this, we're only waiting for someone to tell us to do what we already know we want to do.  Your mind may already be made up.  It's natural to fear making the wrong decision, but give yourself permission to go for it.  Accept that you may be "making a mistake," but put everything you have into it and know that there is always a chance to make a different decision later.

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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 06:23:20 AM »
even if you do swimming you will still probably do subtle parkour training, it doesnt have to be full time or even tasking work, just if you get some free time work on balance or rail flow or something that isnt as stressing to the body, i played baseball and soccer in high school and i stopped training hard because i wanted to train parkour and although i still did both i gave my concerns and time to parkour and i honestly regret it so much because i can't ever go back to intense baseball and soccer now, but i can always go back to intense parkour, i honestly think if you choose swimming you will still practice parkour in some manner

but this is your decision and im guessing by posting this you are already leaning towards one side and just wanted reaffirmation as to that side, good luck regardless

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Re: Making a choice between two sports.
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2011, 06:30:33 AM »
Whatever one you enjoy more, do that more; however, keep the other one still a part of your life just not as much. You can easily do both, but focus on more on the one you enjoy more.