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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2010, 12:12:10 PM »
Oh god now this is really going wrong. I'm going to ask that you stop the Gatorade comparison now. We have enough analogies floating around that we don't need to argue about more analogies.

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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2010, 12:14:49 PM »
This might be one of those threads that is simply beneficial to read, but not necessary to post/argue in.

Read it. If you agree, cool. If you don't, cool. But hopefully it got you thinking about what really matters.


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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2010, 12:16:44 PM »
I don't think thats productive. Putting this on a non responsive status is essentially endorsing the content. Unless of course you want people to make OTHER threads for the sake of the other side of the argument?
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2010, 12:18:03 PM »
Well, since it's for the children, alright.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 12:19:34 PM »
Have to agree with Mark here. We will likely never have a good understanding of the splits among the founding group, and its not that important while the reality of how the how people practice and orient themselves has fairly clear division which is generally encoded as parkour and free running.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 12:21:50 PM »
I don't think thats productive. Putting this on a non responsive status is essentially endorsing the content. Unless of course you want people to make OTHER threads for the sake of the other side of the argument?

Sorry, I didn't mean to say it should be locked, stickied, front-paged, and published in the local newspaper. :P

I mean more that if someone reads it and disagree with one [or many] points, it may not be worth his/her time to argue it. There will [unfortunately] always be opposing views, so sometimes it's better to take it for what it's worth and move on.

Just my personal suggestion.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2010, 12:24:11 PM »
And I'll politely ignore it. Debate is healthy and has been fairly productive with high level discourse (read: not mine) over in the purist thread. Just because this isn't something some people WANT to talk about doesn't make it any less important, if only to help individuals further their own understanding of their beliefs.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2010, 12:26:44 PM »
I don't think this article really brings anything new to the table and it certainly isn't the "end all" article on the subject.  It's a perpetuation of the "just move" argument.  As Mark said, parkour and freerunning have obviously become two different entities.  Arguing otherwise seems to be an attempt to reconcile your own reasons for practicing.

There are many freerunners who are acknowledging that they practice something separate from parkour and vice versa.  Just because you find yourself falling somewhere in the middle doesn't mean you can ignore the distinction.

If you want to understand more about my position on the issue, see the Parkour Purist thread.  I'm tired of typing it out.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2010, 12:31:52 PM »
And I'll politely ignore it. Debate is healthy and has been fairly productive with high level discourse (read: not mine) over in the purist thread. Just because this isn't something some people WANT to talk about doesn't make it any less important, if only to help individuals further their own understanding of their beliefs.

And you're right! Look what discussion has done for all of us! If someone wants to talk about this, yeah, they should. What I'm asking is that people not get all flustered in this thread if someone doesn't agree with you. Truth is, you probably won't convince them to agree with you, but that's okay.

I guess the main thing I'm trying to say is this: posts in threads like this should be in the interest of presenting different points of view, rather than trying to convince everyone else to adopt yours.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2010, 01:01:29 PM »
I agree Andy and I've said that before - if someone likes vanilla better you can "argue" all you want for chocolate, they will still like vanilla. It seems that this will be the case for whether someone feels that parkour and freerunning are the same thing or not. I try to present a logical argument, and if someone bites, fine, if not, fine :)
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2010, 01:05:16 PM »
True, but this is more of a gravity/not gravity than a chocolate/vanilla. You're arguing about what is/isn't, not a preference. That's to other thread of which do you like better pk or fr.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2010, 02:07:30 PM »
Does it really matter what we call it ?  come on guys we all love the same thing and we all add in a little flips here in there i agree we all have our own ways to do this amazing art.

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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2010, 02:50:35 PM »
Is this real life?

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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2010, 02:52:18 PM »
Is this real life?

Yes, and it's also a parkour forum. Please keep posts relevant and constructive.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2010, 02:53:38 PM »
Really? I thought this was an "it's all just movement" forum. Wouldn't want to stand for something on someone's toes.

Edit: Admittedly that was a dick thing to say. But I really meant it as a joke.
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2010, 03:08:57 PM »
Really? I thought this was an "it's all just movement" forum. Wouldn't want to stand for something on someone's toes.

Edit: Admittedly that was a dick thing to say. But I really meant it as a joke.


I know you're joking, but your joke misses Adam's point. I could have replaced "it's also a parkour forum" with "it's also a freerunning forum" or "ADD forum" or whatever. Make sense?
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2010, 03:15:24 PM »
 Just because you find yourself falling somewhere in the middle doesn't mean you can ignore the distinction.



Actually you can! I do it everyday:)
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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2010, 03:50:43 PM »
Actually you can! I do it everyday:)

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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2010, 05:20:34 PM »
Come on! Isn't that why this dang thread was created?? You have my vote for sticky and lock.

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Re: Parkour Vs. Freerunning: Once and For All Article
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2010, 05:23:57 PM »
Come on! Isn't that why this dang thread was created?? You have my vote for sticky and lock.
Again. Endorsing the idea that is not agreed upon.
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