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dash... i dont get it.
« on: May 28, 2010, 04:44:01 PM »
If you can jump and get your legs over it, doesn't that mean that you pretty much already have your body passed the obstacle? Why would you need to put your hands down at all? I don't really understand why you need it.
Heck with drugs and alcohol. I get high off exercise. Feel those endorphins pump.
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2010, 05:00:54 PM »
To stabilize yourself self, and increase speed.

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2010, 05:03:56 PM »
fair enough
Heck with drugs and alcohol. I get high off exercise. Feel those endorphins pump.
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2010, 05:54:16 PM »
Also, it works if you can't just pass it with a jump. Sometimes you fall a little short, so you use your hands to push you more. And as JD said, it stabilizes you.

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 12:26:35 AM »
also, if you havent practiced your dash vault, and you misjudge a kong and you cant get your feet down fast enough, its better to dash then bruise a tailbone...

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 01:08:59 PM »
another possibility is that one or the other might mess up your flow.cant think up a situation now but i bet there is one out there.
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 01:48:37 PM »
push off more and get that extra length

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 07:54:42 PM »
As JD Davis said, it helps with stabilization and speed. You also push off more when you dash, so you get a nice amount of distance compared to your average jump. It also keeps your momentum in place, which I wouldn't consider the same as stabilization. You can keep on running without a trip or slowing down after a dash. That's how it is for me, anyway.




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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 09:52:22 PM »
From my experience, I use kongs when I need to get distance over a short obstacle such as a retaining wall or rail. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRMQzDZDOc

I use the dash when I need to get over a long obstacle like a box or long picnic table. I feel that I can jump further and get even more distance when I "sit" during the vault. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a3F_9KQhY&feature=PlayList&p=83B1AB59B9E2CC34&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=26
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 02:52:12 PM »
To do a good dash you shouldn't be just jumping over and putting your hands down, that just slows you down, looks dumb and is a good way to hurt your wrists. A dash is essentially a long low hurdle in which you use your hands to keep your butt from hitting the obstacle, I teach it this way so people can make sure they aren't causing stress to their wrists, as well as so they can get as much power as possible out of it. It also happens to be one of the most energy efficient out of the basic vaults (I feel comfortable making this claim because of group of at least ten down here in SA worked in a circuit like manner doing 50 Repetitions of 7 different movements, out of the vaults we did (Cat Pass, Speed, Dash) the dash fatigued us the least.
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 05:13:03 PM »
I'm betting if I could do dashes I would know what you're talking about, but for now, I'm still incapable of most vaults... I need a vault box.
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2010, 06:55:48 AM »
for learning the dash i found it  very helpful to think of it as a kind of flying front kick(martial arts) while moving forward.or you could think of it kind of like a long jump. but i would say a vault box is a good idea especialy if youve never done one before.
If you are in front of a wall that you cannot get passed, would you just keep banging your head into the wall?… No, you would find a new wall.

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2010, 08:44:25 AM »
I'm betting if I could do dashes I would know what you're talking about, but for now, I'm still incapable of most vaults... I need a vault box.

Here's a good video that helped me out when I first started learning the dash vault
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 09:10:31 AM »
A good idea for trying vaults that you are not comfortable doing is to try them over the arm of your couch. That way you land on a cushion. It can get you over the initial fear of never feeling it before and will then allow you to go out and do it on a small obstacle outside. This is how I first learned my kongs. I was scared of my feet catching because I had never done the movement. So, I worked them over the arm of my couch.
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 09:55:41 AM »
I'll tell you how I learned the movement for the dash.

Jump at the obstacle.
Aim so that your ass will hit the obstacle.
Put your hands near your ass, to prevent it from hitting.
Push so that you slide over the obstacle.

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 11:28:50 AM »
The hardest part of a dash is keeping your legs up and flat. Once you can do I would assume it's rather easy. I am still working on mine. I can keep my power leg up, but my other leg like to bend.

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2010, 03:35:09 AM »
Look at my avatar. But then agin I jump to high period :(
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2010, 07:38:55 AM »
lol, you DON'T need it, it's just a different WAY to pass an obstacle. that's the real key to PK, learning as many different forms of passment as possible, this is where your strength and flexibility come from
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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2010, 09:06:10 PM »
it could save your ass if you dont quite clear that simple jump over.

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Re: dash... i dont get it.
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2010, 09:45:58 AM »
it could save your ass
considering we're talking about dash vaults here this is quite a literal statement
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