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indicate level of experience
« on: October 21, 2009, 05:14:14 PM »
I like how everyone can put in their own perspective on things...but I'd rather get suggestions from more experienced people, especially in questions about setting up a community, or techniques for more difficult moves.  I don't mean censure the noobs to parkour...but well it'd be easier to tell if the info is credible or questionable if there was something that indicated level of experience that's there plain and simple to see.  Karma and how many posts you make I guess are kind of okay indicators for experience level...but I would like to see it plainly stated...started in 200X or 19XX...maybe with a focus on what their specialties are...for example (precisions are my favorite). 

I know that could be put in the personal text or signature...but not everyone's gonna put it down there (I haven't..lol).  And I know you can see when someone has joined the site...but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're new to parkour if they just joined the site a month ago.  the position is a good indicator...but if you're posting 5-10 times a day you can get hundreds of posts in super fast...which would make your position high, but you'd still be relatively inexperienced. 

I'm just concerned that I can't really tell how experienced someone is when their giving suggestions out.  So I don't know if it's a trust worthy suggestion or just the random opinion of a noob.  I mean seeing something from a new perspective is nice...but when you're getting suggestions for a double kong for example from someone who can't even do a regular kong...that seems a little ridiculous to me.  If I could see an indication of how experienced someone is it'd be nice to be able to look at a hard number and determine for myself how much I want to pay attention to that suggestion.

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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 07:34:43 PM »
That would be pretty cool but the problem with that is people lie, exaggerate, or are humble and rather not reveal experience. I think the only way to truly find one's experience is through his words, perhaps finding a video, but definitely by training with them.

Karma has nothing at all to do with experience, neither do the ranked monkey titles. I can make those up and modify them at will haha
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 07:39:16 PM »

Karma has nothing at all to do with experience, neither do the ranked monkey titles. I can make those up and modify them at will haha

Which you certainly do quite frequently.

I like the idea too, its just that the issue is there's really no feasable way to pull it off with any degree of accuracy. The only thing I can think of would be moderator/admin assigned titles to people they feel demonstrate adequate knowledge over a period of time.

For example, somebody who has been observed making a few dozen or more solid posts in the general fitness forums regarding Plyometrics or something of the like could be given an arbitrary "Pylo master" title or something of the sort.


Obviously that Idea would need more refining, just a suggestion, trying to build, trying to help
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 08:08:25 PM »
I like it and I try to help, but I need community to step up and say "Hey this Steve L guy is a god at fitness, give him a title!" and then I give him Fitness God title.

Maybe I can start a forum campaign?
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 08:10:27 PM »
Aye I think that could be a good Idea. Nominating for statuses, community suggestions and votes, ultimately Admin's judgement call...
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 10:13:42 PM »
Pretty neat idea...

'course my experience level is OVER NINE THOUSANDDD!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 10:22:25 PM »
I'm definitely like... level...  ∞
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 11:50:40 PM »
To me this idea is made of fail.  I understand the reasoning, it's hard to tell who to listen to sometimes, but I think we all have to exercise our own judgment.  Caveat emptor.

I could easily see nominations and such become a popularity contest.  Don't get me wrong, I trust and love the APK admins and pretty much everyone I've met through APK, but I see a strong potential for unintentional abuse.  Groupthink, etc.  To me, we're better off to encourage a culture of transparency in dialogue (being clear about who we are, and who our sources are) as well as open debate and friendly skepticism.  On General Fitness sometimes brand new posters get their feelings hurt, but the regulars are quick to point out why we're so blunt about things--- because we care about getting accurate info out there.

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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 03:15:20 AM »
To me this idea is made of fail.  I understand the reasoning, it's hard to tell who to listen to sometimes, but I think we all have to exercise our own judgment.  Caveat emptor.

I could easily see nominations and such become a popularity contest.  Don't get me wrong, I trust and love the APK admins and pretty much everyone I've met through APK, but I see a strong potential for unintentional abuse.  Groupthink, etc.  To me, we're better off to encourage a culture of transparency in dialogue (being clear about who we are, and who our sources are) as well as open debate and friendly skepticism.  On General Fitness sometimes brand new posters get their feelings hurt, but the regulars are quick to point out why we're so blunt about things--- because we care about getting accurate info out there.

yeah I understand my original idea's got holes in it  :-[, cause yes people could lie about their experience level/ expertise...but I think it's better then always trying to guess if advice is just noobish opinion or actually has some weight of personal experience behind it.  When a question is posed, people have a natural inclination to answer it...I'd just like a simple way of sorting suggestions/advise of the community at large by experience level.  But, I like Beretta's suggestion of transparency (friendly skepticism LOL nice way of putting it  ;D)... I really hope its something attainable within this community.  Nominating people would be cool...maybe even have specialists for each state/territory...that way it's someone you might have a chance to train with every once in a while, so more in depth info could be found in person?
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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 11:18:20 AM »
Y'know I just realized how rude my first sentence was, I'm sorry Ryan.  I actually think the idea is great, and I see the need for it, I just think it's too hard to implement it.

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Re: indicate level of experience
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 12:26:16 AM »
Y'know I just realized how rude my first sentence was, I'm sorry Ryan.  I actually think the idea is great, and I see the need for it, I just think it's too hard to implement it.

no problem  ;)  yeah, I guess we can make do without it... I'll just have to research people individually... not a big deal, I'm naturally curious, and it's not like it's to hard to spot noobish advice.