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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2010, 07:37:54 PM »
I'm not really all that big any more. I'm 5ft 10 and I used to weigh 220 lbs but now through martial arts parkour and general fitness I'm down to about 175. I just thought I'd introduce myself before I asked a question.

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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2010, 11:24:33 PM »
So, Hi, I'm Cheryl. I'm considered big, or what I like to polite-fully call, plus-size. I am 5'8" and I weigh 260lbs. And now, that number hasn't gone up or down in the last three years. Most of that is muscle, mind you, but I'm thinking on at least dropping 20 or so, but it really is okay to do Parkour/free running at my weight?

I currently have knee problems, but they're not too serious of an issue, and no back problems really, well, okay, maybe once a week it bothers me, but I just use tylenol and it goes away.

Onto my past..um, I was in volley ball for a year, and then in basketball for three, and that's pretty much my whole history..haha

Right now I do daycare, 3 boys, and I'm constantly lifting, and arguing, and lifting some more...Oh! And running...gotta chase the little buggers.

So, that's me..
I am strong; I am fast; I am a traceur; Think you can out run me now? Sure, you use the obvious path, but I will use the fastest.
Obstacle? What obstacle?
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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2010, 01:27:18 AM »
Yo. Welcome.

Well what I can say to do right now is what most people that are in this board are focused on and that is cutting weight. More protein, less carbs and fat. And more cardio. I have a plyometrics workout I'm gonna post here hopefully by next week and you can try seeing if you can incorporate that in your regimen.

Also, you said you have knee problem. I'm 6'0" and about 240-260 and fluctuate in that general area but I'm trying to cut to 190-200. Despite my large muscly size I have no knee problems at all and that is because I work my legs as hard (I can press about 850-860 lbs on Leg Press. Working up to 1000) if not harder then the rest of my body. How strong are your legs? It seems a lot of big guys that do PK that have knee problems have them because their legs have so much force going into them from jumps but don't get worked out how they should be to support the weight they are dealing with.
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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2010, 02:14:25 AM »
Well, I don't really know how strong my legs are, but I have rock hard calves. haha but It's just the weather that has a factor in my knee pain. Don't like the cold, never have, never will. And I thank the one who started this post, and others for keeping it going considering when I had the thought of wanting to become a free runner, I thought I'd have to spend a year doing nothing but working out before I'd even get my first pair of shoes and actually started training...You guys shed some light on it for me. I thank you a lot. :-* :-* :-*
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Obstacle? What obstacle?
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« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2010, 03:46:33 PM »
correct me if im wrong, but regardless of how powerful your legs are it is the impact of your weight that causes the complications. running for a heavy person can cause knee problems if you run heel-toe. just the impact jars your body. this coupled with legs workouts that fatigue your legs will help lead to injury. but over time the conditioning of ankles calves and the proprioception of your feet should mitigate the likeliness of injury.

also i read an interesting thing when looking at demons drill videos. the skill guideline for the all around better athlete. there is quite alot about being able to counter body weight. anyways everyone should read it and tell me what you think.
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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2010, 05:33:11 PM »
correct me if im wrong, but regardless of how powerful your legs are it is the impact of your weight that causes the complications. running for a heavy person can cause knee problems if you run heel-toe. just the impact jars your body. this coupled with legs workouts that fatigue your legs will help lead to injury. but over time the conditioning of ankles calves and the proprioception of your feet should mitigate the likeliness of injury.

also i read an interesting thing when looking at demons drill videos. the skill guideline for the all around better athlete. there is quite alot about being able to counter body weight. anyways everyone should read it and tell me what you think.

Who runs heel to toe? And you may be right but I've never had so much as a single pang of pain from my legs. Granted I'm not out doing 15 foot drops with double backflips thrown into them but if I hadn't worked out my legs (and my leg work outs don't really fatigue my legs. js.) and strengthened my legs my legs probably would've gotten injured by now.

I'll have to check more of demon then. I must've missed thato ne.
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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2010, 05:37:35 AM »
Definitely got on ankle strengthening, and I will use it to my advantage. I haven't had any knee pain though recently because of the warming temperatures. It's mainly in cold weather, I think I mention that though already. And I haven't gotten to go out and even train a little bit to see what I currently can and can't do because it's been to wet. :( Another downer of course, but I'll try everything in my power to strengthen my muscles before doing vaults and drops. I've never broken a bone in my body my whole life, and I don't really want this to be the start of it. :)
I am strong; I am fast; I am a traceur; Think you can out run me now? Sure, you use the obvious path, but I will use the fastest.
Obstacle? What obstacle?
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« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2010, 04:33:17 PM »
Everyone, go to demons drills youtube page, find the video about stronger athletes, one where he is just sitting and talking. read the info and read more then click the link and read.

Edit: just found out it got deleted. i got 404'd
« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 04:35:37 PM by Newby »
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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2010, 09:04:24 PM »
Weight does have a constant negative effect on all lower body pain. But not only that, weather does not usually have a major effect on joints. Sure it may be a bit stiff because of the cold but weather will not harm it to bad. Like Kyle said, if you are taking huge drops, even if you land properly, you will have chronic pain in your knees and legs.
If you take a, let's use the 15 foot drop, with a double back flip and you land perfectly the shock from such a high drop will go through your joints and will eventually harm you. Especially if you constantly take the drop.

If I am wrong, please tell me.


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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2010, 09:13:26 PM »
No drops. :) Not yet at least, just simple and mild joint pain from weather. It's freaking cold here. And usually when I feel the pain is at 5 am when I wake up and have to be out the door by 5:15 to be to work at 6. So, It's just between 5 and 6 that I feel the pain because I'm not fully awake. And it took me like a week to realize it.
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Obstacle? What obstacle?
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« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2010, 09:17:29 PM »
Yep, just stiffness from the cold plus you sleeping.


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« Reply #71 on: April 05, 2010, 03:20:13 AM »
im really supprised i haven't commented here yet...... so yea ill introduce myself later
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« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2010, 12:01:05 PM »
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« Reply #73 on: April 07, 2010, 03:07:05 AM »
hey! you remembered!
i like this guy ^^^ haha now im getting in on offense too!!  apparently coaches like having athletes on their line :P haha

u are a lineman too right??
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« Reply #74 on: April 07, 2010, 01:32:59 PM »
we should all pretty much be linemen in this forum. the husky guys belong on the line.
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« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2010, 02:50:38 PM »
hey! you remembered!
i like this guy ^^^ haha now im getting in on offense too!!  apparently coaches like having athletes on their line :P haha

u are a lineman too right??

Yup i used to be Varsity DT/OT/P haha I was a lot of positions. Though i stopped playing football.. I hate my coach
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« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2010, 04:31:53 PM »
haha yea, coaches are the hardest thing to deal with >.<

but anyways, just letting ALL OF YOU know that i gave all of you guys in gorilla pk some mad props in my Parkour Public Speaking speech.

and anything important that u want me to talk about?? im giving it on friday so i got today and tomorow to change/add to it
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Re: Im not Fat, I'm Husky! (INTRODUCE YOURSELF)
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2010, 08:01:38 PM »
Do you have a copy of the speech we can peep?
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« Reply #78 on: April 08, 2010, 03:09:50 AM »
idk it will fit, but il try
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« Reply #79 on: April 08, 2010, 03:10:46 AM »
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Parkour Outline
 
*** YOU MAY ASK QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT OF THE PRESENTATION! ASK QUESTIONS AND I WILL ANSWER!!!!***
 
Parkour video: link è <http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C94873720C51A810 >
 
What is Parkour
              èParkour is very difficult to understand, unless you are a traceur or traceuesse yourself
              èParkour is the ART of moving through your environment, quickly, efficiently, and safely. Also parkour is getting from point A to point B as quickly as possible while overcoming obsticles
                 ^^^^ this is the base of our belief is, but every traceur sees parkour I little bit differently
 
Parkour Terms
è I WILL use some terms that you won’t understand and it would be easier for all of us if you knew what they were. If I use a word that you don’t know, feel free to raise your hand and ask at any point of the speech.

•   Traceur/Traceusse
•   Run/Path
•   Flow
•   Hot Spot
•   Jam
•   P.K.
•   American Parkour/Urban Freeflow
•   Vault
•   Landing
•   Wall Run/Pop Vault
•   Kong:(1) noun: the motion that is used to overcome an obstacle in which you dive at the obstacle and push off of it with your hands
   “I used the Kong technique to get past that wall”
   (2) verb: to use the Kong technique to overcome an obstacle
   “I could totally Kong that s***t bro,  I just want to see you do it first.”

Front flip, back Flip, Gainer, Corkscrew: all NOT PARKOUR TERMS!!!! These are in no way, shape, or form parkour. They have no purpose, therefore, are not parkour.
This is a very common misconception
 
Origin
èRichard Belle
              -French Vietnam soldier who wanted a faster, more efficient way to get to where they needed to go and better way to escape
              -him and his troops trained and learned with him
              èPassed on Knowledge to David Belle, his son,
              -David Belle helped it evolve
                            Added Philosophy, trained more, made a job of it by acting (District B13)
                            Got the first group together (Kamikaze) included the first real Traceurs

                            Most well known of the group is Sebastian Foucan and David Belle,
                            David is largely credited for the invention of parkour
 
è Parkour has REALLY been around since mankind has needed to chase or flee efficiently
              Humans are very flexible, fast, and have a wide range of motion
              Theoretically, Humans have been doing parkour since we were apes

Who can do Parkour?

Anyone who knows how to move their body and are in good enough shape to run can do parkour

The community doesn’t discriminate by age, location, race, religion or even by skill,  so all ages are accepted and receive the same treatment and are entitled to the same help that the rest of the community gets

Why Do Parkour?
Some use it as:
•       An outlet from life
•       A way to break the social norms by moving in a  new way
•       A means of self defense by understanding how to escape from bad situations efficiently
•       A way to break mental barriers
•       A way to practice their philosophy with not only their mind, but their body
•       a simple way to work out
•       a way to get girls
•       a way to show off




The Philosophy
 
The philosophy in parkour is very important to many of its practitioners

Major reoccurring themes in the philosophy
-   to achieve your goals, you need to get past fear first
-   practice makes perfect
-   when given a challenge, take it
-   most importantly ALL OBSTICLES CAN BE OVERCOME without disrupting their flow and putting them of their original course
o   a wise traceur once said…
•    “if there is no way over it, there is a must be way under it.
•    If there is no way under it, there must be a way around it.
•   If there is no way around it, there must be a way through it.
•    If there is no way through it, there must be another way.”

These beliefs don’t only apply to the way that the practitioners practice, but they take it and apply it to their lives.

Imagine using these principles in your everyday life.
Imagine all the obstacles that have stopped you or made you change course.
Did you get where you wanted to go?
Now imagine all the obstacles in your way now,
Instead of standing infront of it, waiting for it to go away, try overcomeing it.
It not easy, but its worth it when you get to where you’re going.

Parkour vs Freerunning

Unfortunately always put under the same roof (or on the same roof)

Major differences in training, philosophy, attitude, and more

Because of huge philosophical differences, sometimes practitioners can end up at each others necks. But most often not (thanks to the traceur’s level headed-nes) :P

Practice
Parkour =  getting somewhere fast and efficiently
Freerunning = flips and showing off. No purpose to their motion. Just freely running.

Philosophy
Parkour = all obstacles can be overcome
Freerunning = N/A

(learned from personal experience) Practitioners
Parkour = helpful, nice, supportive, level headed, Overall good people
Freerunning = cocky, arrogant, closed minded, annoying, and VERY cocky

But not all Freerunners/Traceurs are what I say they are.
Joel Paisner!

Parkour has a bad reputation for injuring kids
In REALITY its wannabe freerunners who try going too far too fast.
Tell about kid in APK forum (15 foot drop, big argument, did it anyway)

Training

First, Parkouring is not a word!
People who say they know what parkouring is should be punished
People who say they go parkouring should be slapped

When a person says they are “doing parkour” they rarely are ever really doing parkour
   They are really PRACTICING parkour.




You practice parkour by drilling basic movements
-kongs
-speed vaults
-precision jumps
-cat leaps
-safety rolls
-exc.

When TRAINING for parkour, you are not limited to just drilling motions.
You can: do muscle ups, handstands, verticle jumps, long jumps, push-ups, abdominal work,
   -ANYTHING that will get you more fit will do good
Parkour works every muscle vigorously when done well, so overall fitness is the most important goal when training

Best season to practice?
Probably spring, summer, and early fall
   -parkour is VERY annoying to try to train for in the winter, but other options are available if you can’t practice outside.
      -go to a gymnastics gym (talk about options that they offer)
      -work out at the gym (mats and other equipment are normally available for your use
      -if neither of these work, get creative! The best thing you can do is try to find a different way! If you find a better way, you are starting to think like a true traceur or traceuesse

Not fun enough? Get a jam going at a local hotspot!

Jams- events when people get together and train, practice, or just fool around trying fun parkour techniques
   Go over:
small jams,
big jams,
state jams,
national jams,
international jams


Hotspot: a place that is recognized as a place that is good for practicing parkour
-APK’s Hotspots map
local hotspots: Verona park, NYC, Central Park, The abandoned hospitals + penitentiary, and more that need to be discovered


Community

Something you will never read about in articles is about the community of Parkour practitioners
I have experienced and grown attached to this community for many reasons
-   helpful
-   kind
-   fun loving
-   open minded
-   active
-   common ideas and beliefs
-   various types of people with DIFFERENT ideas and beliefs and Points of view

I experienced this community through APK (describe APK)


Unspoken Bond
by Chris Kessler
I do not speak your language,

Perhaps I never will

I do not know your customs,

Your ways, your family, your skill.

But, what I do know is your movement.

I know your steps, your strength, your fear.

I do not know your culture,

But, through motion, we are distinctly near.

You are my brother,

Though we will never share a family.

You are my equal,

Though you will never meet me.


Through years of reflection,

I have come to realize,

Distance is not an obstacle;

It is only a thin disguise.

Also in the community there is a sense of Pride in all the people, even if they are new and haven’t even learned how to kong yet.
THEY ARE PROUD TO BA A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND BE A TRACEUR(ESSE)
Because of this pride, many people try to change their identity so that they can not only do, but BE parkour.

This results in people adopting nic names from other traceurs.
Nic Names are EARNED not made up. They happen when they happen, can’t be forced.
DOUBLE DIESEL
Some examples of a nicknames would be: Flow, iceman, ninja, spiderman, Livewire, exc
One name you might recignise: Kid PK (tell about rumors about his graffiti)


Contrast APK to Urban Freeflow
Contrast and compare their symbols and their meanings
 
Sub Groups: in the community, there are smaller groups of traceur(esse)s that not only identify themselves by being a practitioner, but also by things like location, skill, status, size, age, exc.
^^Parkour “cliques”
Some groups are: The Tribe, NJ PK, Texas Parkour, Girlparkour, the list goes on!
When you join the community, the sub-groups have a way of finding you, but they never separate you from the full community


How To Start

Just go out,
Start learning, experimenting,
find other people who want to try it or people who already do it
and find a means of SELF MOTIVATION!

What you need to start: durable shirt, durable shorts, a backpack or a bag, and GOOD SHOES!

Shoes are the most important piece of equipment you will ever use!

Things to keep in mind when looking for shoes:
Arch/ankle support
Flexibility
Durability
Material used (waterproof? Vents well? Flexible? All that good stuff)
Treads on the shoe
Thickness of the sole
Weight of the shoe
Type of rubber used in the shoe

Most important thing to practice when starting parkour = SAFETY!!

Places you can learn more
APK
Urban Freeflow
News articles (internet)
Other people who do parkour

CONCLUSION



Le Parkour, By Jeremy Boyd
 
Fog descends from the sky to blind my judgment

Forgetting all I’ve learned with my time past spent
Incorporating my will, or what I have left to give

For this freedom from fear, this freedom to live


So forward I strive, one step and then another

Motivation geared for myself and my brothers.

Steady beat, steady pace, time seems to slow

Then I explode, dodging, moving high and low


Reaching feats that were thought un-reachable

Never knowing quite what I was capable.

Limitless I seem, jumping without showing fear

Reaching the gap that seem not so near.


Running towards a destination that I did not set

Keeping pace, going as fast as my body will let

Up in the air, looking down, aiming for the right spot,

Landing impact, rolling though, running, didn’t stop.


Need to slow down, out of breath, lungs aflame

Feeling what will be tomorrow’s triumphant pain.

Legs rubbery, losing my balance, my arms tire

Wrists are stiff, ankles crack, knees burning fire.


Worth it all, freedom’s price, pleasure and pain intertwined

Sweat clings everywhere, no greater feeling shall I ever find.

Time passed quickly while I was occupied with my run

All would I give, all that I have just to keep this youthful fun.
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