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Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« on: October 14, 2009, 02:15:30 PM »
Parkour was banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK [Daniel Ilibaca's hometown].

From U$F:
"Many of us expected it to happen one day. Well now it has…..Council officials have taken a general view that Parkour/Freerun activity is anti-social and have subsequently slapped a ban on it.  The town of Moreton in the UK, which has a flourishing scene, has been hit hard by this decision and for those choosing to ignore the ban, they will be faced with being on the receiving end of an ASBO (Anti-Social Behaviour Disorder). Anyone involved in the sport/art/discipline will already be aware of the positives that can be drawn from PK/FR and will see this as ill informed officials being a tad heavy handed, but with their decision being passed, surely it’s only a matter of time before other areas follow suit?"

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EDIT: There's already a thread about it in Pics & Vids, but it's worthy of this board.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 02:33:30 PM »
Official Letter:

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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 02:46:13 PM »
Well, it wasn't unexpected. There's always some degree of resistance to change, and those who prefer continuity are ready to take any chance they can get to shut down progression. It is only a matter of time, though, before parkour grows in popularity and legitimacy and flushes out attempts to stop it. The parkour community must work together to make that as short a time as possible.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 02:53:07 PM »
Anti-social?  Looks like there was a big group of people having fun together!   ;D
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 03:01:00 PM »
It was only a matter of time that this would happen. Hope that it doesn't happen in many more places. But in my opinion as parkour/freerunning gets more mainstream we will see this happening more often.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 03:35:28 PM »
Anti-social?  Looks like there was a big group of people having fun together!   ;D

I think, relating to British law, "Anti-social" takes on a meaning more like "against society."

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Anti-social behaviour is often seen as public behaviour that lacks judgement and consideration for others and may cause them or their property damage. It may be intentional, as with vandalism or graffiti, or the result of negligence. Persistent anti-social behaviour may be a manifestation of an antisocial personality disorder.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 03:42:17 PM »
Kudos to whatever secretary wrote that letter: I like the way they made it sound, even though it does suck immensely.  :(
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 04:24:31 PM »
What the hell are they going to do, stop people from working out in public?

Unless you're on rooftops, you really, really can't enforce that kind of policy.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 04:34:50 PM »
Anti-social?  Looks like there was a big group of people having fun together!   ;D

I think, relating to British law, "Anti-social" takes on a meaning more like "against society."

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Anti-social behaviour is often seen as public behaviour that lacks judgement and consideration for others and may cause them or their property damage. It may be intentional, as with vandalism or graffiti, or the result of negligence. Persistent anti-social behaviour may be a manifestation of an antisocial personality disorder.


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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 06:39:43 PM »
It is the police's discretion.  They can stop young people from doing it if they want.  In America, this would never fly.

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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 06:47:16 PM »
It is the police's discretion.  They can stop young people from doing it if they want.  In America, this would never fly.
oh by golly it does,    no official bans from what i've seen but several police followings, putting people in handcuffs for a couple of hours while they run background checks,     a lack of understanding for anything leaves no bounds for what someone will do.    Take the conquiestidors meeting the central americans,    oh they're different and have/do things i a don't have/can't do,............................................................................lets kill 'em.  [WTF] :P
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 06:56:15 PM »
It is the police's discretion.  They can stop young people from doing it if they want.  In America, this would never fly.

Yup yup. We'd can never seem to sit still and go with the flow ;)


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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 09:47:04 AM »
Look at this from another perspective (just 'cuz I like to). The authorities themselves put an end to bad practice of parkour.

And now they are going to work with a experienced and respected traceur in order to fix it. Sounds pretty good to me (as long as they can reach a good resolution).
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 10:11:11 AM »
I'm just glad the council member that spoke was aware the people causing problems were not engaging in the true discipline, and voiced it. As much as it sucks, it seems like they're going to be actually willing (as opposed to saying, "yeah we'll talk" and then refusing anything) to talk to the practitioners about a compromise.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 12:07:08 PM »
I think it is good they at least know what they are talking about. I'm happy to see that they are giving the local freerunners a chance to work things out.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2009, 07:45:01 AM »
This should remind everybody how important it is to train safely, and to respect the public as well as public property.
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 07:53:24 AM »
that pisses me off even though i dont live in the UK. i give condolenses to our brothers and sisters in that area. hopfuly they repeal that act. :'( >:( :'( >:(
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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 08:28:26 AM »
This should remind everybody how important it is to train safely, and to respect the public as well as public property.

Agreed. This isn't the end of the world totally, like they said, they're working with the community leaders to provide traceurs a safe and legal space to train in.  I believe it's probably just an accumulation of complaints about kids disrupting in public places...partially a misunderstanding, but also a definite lack of respect on our part as well.

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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 08:53:46 AM »
this Really sucks but sometimes it takes something like this to help us learn to respect both our local training areas and places we visit. even though we try to proect the enviroment sometimes we can unknowingly cause a disturbence or make a mess etc. myself included. I hope everything turns out in our favor. Good luck to everyone who is going to talk to the city council.  ;D

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Re: Parkour banned in Moreton, Cheshire, UK
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2009, 08:43:04 PM »
It was going to happen, sooner or later. Where i live there is no official ban, but police and pretty much anyone who isn't a traceur or a freerunner hates us. Many adults will give us dirty looks, leave the area call others, or tell us to leave, the cops won't even ask question, assuming we are some gangsters or vandals up to no good.

This post however does not bother me, how can you put a ban on moving? life is movement, and you can't force people to sit still. They call this Anti-Social? Haha. Parkour will live, nothing can stop it.

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