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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #80 on: October 11, 2009, 07:56:02 PM »
Matthew W, I really don't know where to go with that post. I was reading all the posts, got to yours, and then my head
had no more thoughts..just...question marks.  :D (And then taylor posted and i screamed.  ;)) It sounds like your saying there is no free running or parkour because there is free running or parkour. And then somewhere in there a can of smelly yet delicious worms pops up. It's not clear to me at all, and if you could explain further I would greatly appreciate it.

I could tackel one comment you made, however. There are no purists because one jumps over a rail and then back over it.
(This also plays into a definitional stance) Parkour is essentially the skills one would need in order to escape a pursuer, so if
needed to jump over a rail to get away from the dag, then jump back over that rail so I don't fall in the river below me, I still used parkour.
(Note: just one feature of parkour is the skills we would need to escape a pursuer, there are many other purposes).

Also, what I'm getting at is that, in a run, a person doesn't use parkour, then flips over a railing so is now using freerunning.
It's all the same. Your not going to run towards a wall and think, ok use parkour and wall-run, then come to a picnic bench and say
ok freerunning time reverse vault! (I hate how flips are the #1 example of the word freerunning, you don't have to flip to be a freerunner.
Stop creating a bad assumption, use that example less please.) In the run your mindset is always, ok do this, and now this. I'll go there and do this, etc.

The words are different because English is different from French, not because the disciplines are different. (I use this moment to say once more that these are all the same pk/fr/l'add).

A definition, specifically, could be Belle's. "Parkour is a method of physical training which allows us to overcome obstacles in our urban and natural environments." Anything beyond that we must use examples, and beyond that, show them. Parkour cannot be told what is, only shown what is. Let it be that which it is: undefinable.
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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2009, 08:13:05 PM »
It sounds like your saying there is no free running or parkour because there is free running or parkour.

You nailed it. ;)

I wasn't expressing any of my personal thoughts on this, just showing how there seems to be no straightforward answer to any of this.

I'm cool with the arguments and discussion as long as there friendly ideas. It helps us expand our horizons. But I mean, c'mon. We're going in big circles.

Take what you will, and leave well enough alone.

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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2009, 08:49:50 PM »
"Better Together" by Jack Johnson, as performed by Sabia

Terminal velocity has been reached. I've expressed my thoughts and feel that no more progress shall be made in this thread concerning this subject. Perhaps in the future, but not now.

Thus I leave you with a Jack Johnson cover of "Better Together" done by a girl with an INCREDIBLE voice. Good night everyone.  ;D
« Last Edit: October 11, 2009, 08:56:38 PM by Gabe Arnold »

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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2009, 07:03:37 AM »
Don't worry, someone will bring it up again in 2 months and we can do this again :P
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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #84 on: October 12, 2009, 11:56:10 AM »
Don't worry, someone will bring it up again in 2 months and we can do this again :P


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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2009, 01:37:13 PM »
"Better Together" by Jack Johnson, as performed by Sabia

Terminal velocity has been reached. I've expressed my thoughts and feel that no more progress shall be made in this thread concerning this subject. Perhaps in the future, but not now.

Thus I leave you with a Jack Johnson cover of "Better Together" done by a girl with an INCREDIBLE voice. Good night everyone.  ;D

+1 for the great song my good friend  ;D
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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #86 on: October 12, 2009, 04:01:51 PM »
Don't worry, someone will bring it up again in 2 months and we can do this again :P


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WAIT!
We didn't answer the question!! We never truly defined parkour!
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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #87 on: October 12, 2009, 04:49:28 PM »
"A to B as creatively as possible." Isn't that the definition they used in The Office? Interesting how "efficiently" is being phased out by the media in favor of "creatively"...and just in time for MTV's ULTIMATE PARKOUR CHALLENGE! ;-) Just an observation, please don't mark me down.

Personally, I've always held that they are the same thing but as many have pointed out, there are still plenty of people who hold firmly to separate definitions and who am I to tell them they are wrong? I did like Daniel's water analogy on the first page though... Just drink it!
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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2009, 06:35:56 PM »
Don't worry, someone will bring it up again in 2 months and we can do this again :P


Welcome to APK.

WAIT!
We didn't answer the question!! We never truly defined parkour!
 :-Sarcasm

And Gabe, props, that girl's voice is kickin'!

well, it's going to be next to impossible for EVERYONE to come to the same definition...  (What I say from here on out COULD be debated but tough luck as this thread is winding down apparently)

Parkour is Dynamic, that is the difference between it and something concrete like, say, Ice Cream.  Now, it is fair to say that it isn't to the extent that I previously described it...  but it isn't completely the same seeing as everyone does it different, it is very personal while being very vague...  kind of one of those "we pick and choose" things.

While, yes, we COULD come to a definition, it would take a few months as well as the Yamakasi to come to a conclusion...  Maybe we should just bite the bullet and start defining it all but it'd probably just come to a winding down like this thread has

People are talking to me in the back ground so I can't concentrate to write just 2 sentances (They just won't stop talking for 5 seconds...  So I'm gonna come back and restate what I'm trying to say, if this hasn't concluded by then... In other words, "BRB")

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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #89 on: October 12, 2009, 06:58:13 PM »
Can't.
Stop.
Laughing.

That is all.

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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2009, 07:24:05 PM »
im not man enough to read 5 pages this late, but is seems everyone is just voicing opinions so i recon i'll give it a shot ;D.
what my little mind has gathered from listening to the yamakasi and others:  parkour and freerunning are different, but they are the same because they are l'art du deplacement but not ballet or brake dancing...

art of movement:
parkour
freerunning
tricking
martial arts
ballet
brake dancing
skate boarding
etc.
etc.
etc.
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Re: PARKOUR VS FREERUNNING
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2009, 07:49:37 PM »
We feed ourselves off of obstacles. Belle said something to that extent, don't remember exact wording.
Anyway, that's where efficiency gets debated. It could be more efficient to run up the wall instead of taking
the time to walk the entire handicap ramp.

But then, in order to train, we must purposelly and intentionally put these obstacles in our way, so that when a
real life situation comes up, we overcome that obstacle in a more efficient (or rather, never ever done before) manner.

Thank you Belle and TK17, where my thoughts had been led from.