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« on: July 11, 2009, 09:17:54 AM »
What the hell is wrong with kids these days?? They are disrespectful, lazy, and only look out for themselves. Do people even know how to raise kids these days?? I am 23 and I know that im not very old but me and my sister were raised to be thoughtful, kind, and respectful. Whatever happened to the traditional way of raising kids that showed results?

The reason I bring this up is because at my work I was helping one of my customers who had back problems load up concrete bags and he had 2 perfectly healthy kids to do this for him. The reason I know this is that he asked them to help load up the bags and their response was "yea sure, we'll get right on it." and just sat in the car talking on the phone. If I said something like that my dads foot would be soo far up my ass i would be eating shoe leather for a week. So it ended up me telling the customer to go sit in the car and I can get the concrete. There was 30 bags of the 100 lbs concrete and he insisted that he help out but I pulled the im a weightlifter and this gives me extra training excuse. He tried to give me a tip of 20 bucks and I refused because it is my job to help and even if it wasnt I would have still helped him.

Even though those were not my kids if they were I would be dragging them out of the car by the ear. They showed complete disrespect to their own father and that is wrong. This isnt even the first time, I see this type of stuff everywhere I go kids/teenagers disrespecting their parents and others whether they are older than the person or not. That is why I believe a good ass whipping is in order lol. Even one of my cousins is like this, completely disrespectful to me and his grandmother. When he gets a FREE present from her anytime he complains that "oh this thing sucks". WHAT?!?! Boy you are very close to an ass kicking so watch what you say. He insulted the car I drive saying its a piece of crap when I spent so long saving this car. It is a 2002 outback and I bought it when it was brand new in 2002. Just cause his parents spent money they dont have on things they cannot afford makes my car a piece of crap?? I am really done with kids/teenagers with no respect or disipline. What are your thoughts on this?

p.s. those of you that were raised like me then I give you and your parents props and keep up the good work.
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Re: kids these days...
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 10:46:05 AM »
I hear you. I'm only 16, but I'm appalled at the behavior of other kids my age.


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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 10:51:03 AM »
Them darn kids and their cellular telephones.


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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 10:52:55 AM »
They must be all high on dat rap music. lol
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 11:00:52 AM »
My parents are both from Japan, they're crazy strict about the whole "respect your elders" thing. If I talked back to them, they'd give me a good @$$whoopin (and yes, I got plenty of it during my "rebellious" stage, my mother broke several wooden spoons from hitting me too hard :P).

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 11:07:48 AM »
I agree. Not all kids are bad, but a lot are. Even the "good" kids tend to do smaller bad things (litter, etc) when with their friends due to peer pressure. Peer pressure, "culture"... it's all pathetic! I'm also 16, but I hate my peers' personality. I understand how peer pressure can make someone do something bad, and I won't blame the victims, but those responsible for it... it's awful!

How hard is it for people to realize that "cool" isn't making a mess, or ruining someone's day? Apparently very.

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Re: kids these days...
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 11:13:56 AM »
I was born and raised in Denmark. In the motherland there is a big emphasis on being respectful to your parents, but even there it varies from family to family. Whenever I said anything disrespectful to my parents, my dad would give me such a verbal ass kicking. On the other hand my cousins can be extremely disrespectful to their parents.

I work at Old Navy in the local mall. For some people Old Navy is just another word for Day Care. You learn very quickly to be totally numb to their rudeness and disrespect. The only thing we can do is to raise our kids the right way.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 11:28:45 AM »
Man, don't even get me started, but I totally agree with you Chris Parker. I'm 16 and I take pride in being respected for maturity.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 12:01:06 PM »
I agree. I am only 14 and I think people are totally disrespectful and rude.
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Re: kids these days...
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 12:38:31 PM »
They must be all high on dat rap music. lol
Hey now, lol. Like 80% of my music is Hip Hop and the other 20% is dance music but I was raised just like you. Both of my parents were military so I was raised like I was in the military. But I agree completely, kids younger then me who disrespect their parents like that kinda depress me. I just always know that I wouldn't be where I am now if my parents weren't there for me and I wish kids would realize how much their parents sacrifice for them.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 12:41:03 PM »
They must be all high on dat rap music. lol
Hey now, lol. Like 80% of my music is Hip Hop and the other 20% is dance music but I was raised just like you. Both of my parents were military so I was raised like I was in the military. But I agree completely, kids younger then me who disrespect their parents like that kinda depress me. I just always know that I wouldn't be where I am now if my parents weren't there for me and I wish kids would realize how much their parents sacrifice for them.
yep your right. Oh and by the way the rap thing was a joke. I love to listen to rap especially tech n9ne.
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Re: kids these days...
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 12:41:13 PM »
I happen to really enjoy teenagers' personalities. I agree, kids should learn to be respectful and all that. It's a shame you observed what you felt was inappropriate behavior from those kids. But you are being pretty judgmental, IMO. You only observed these kids for a few minutes. Maybe that kind of thing is okay in that family? Every family is different. I'm not saying they should get an excuse; that kind of thing certainly wouldn't fly in my family, but maybe for this family it was an okay behavior. It had to have been, if they blew off their dad and he did nothing about it. Kids don't raise themselves, their behavior is a product of a complex system of factors: parents, community, school, pop culture, peers, etc. Heck, even their nutrition and socio-economic status will play a huge part.

I spend every day pretty much surrounded by kids aged 11-18, and I see a whole range of attitudes. Most are great: respectful, fun, engaging, etc. A handful are, well, a handful. I'm fortunate to be in a position to set an example of appropriate behavior for these kids, and to hold them to it when they get out of line. The thing about adolescents is, to a certain degree they HAVE to buck the system. That's how they learn to be themselves, grow up, and sort out their identities. It's normal for them to see their parents as "lame," and be lazy and whatever for a while. I still think they should be expected to treat their family members with respect, and if they had been my students, I don't know if I would have given them an "a$$-whooping," but I definitely would have held them to helping their dad out, no excuses. But understand too that this is a natural part of growing up and we have ALL done it. Don't try to tell me you didn't when you were that age. :P So maybe you weren't selling drugs in the school bathroom or anything, I mean maybe you weren't a really "baaaad" kind of rebellious kid, but I'm pretty sure you lipped off to your parents once in a while. It's a part of adolescence.

Parents, too, have to pick their battles. Adolescence is a rough time for any family. If you over-parent, you don't let your kid grow up independently. If you under-parent, you get a holy terror spoiled brat. So it becomes a balancing act. Maybe this dad was just letting this one slide because he was choosing his battles, as it were.

I guess the point of all this is:

1. It's a shame you observed that behavior and it's understandably frustrating. It frustrates me when I see it too.
2. I hope this behavior doesn't cause you to over-generalize about teenagers; I can assure you (because I have seen a huge sample) that on the whole teenagers are pretty great people.
3. Remember that kids don't raise themselves
4. Remember that parenting is the most difficult job in the world

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 12:46:58 PM »
I know what you mean, my peers anoy the crap out of me. All they are is ungrateful little punks that get everything they want in life, because mommy and daddy want them to have the childhood that theve always wanted without realizing the harm the its doing. Kids are ungratfule, they use people to get what they want, the will go through any means nessasery to get what the want (working is unincluded), or when someone gives them a gift, there dissipointed with what the person went out of thier way to get for them. Im only 16, and I get what I want...but here is the diffrence, I work for what I want. I put my time and sweat to get nice things. And I use my own money, and no, thats not because my parents make me...its because I want to. I enjoy the feeling of satisfaction of gaining something after overcoming trial.
  It sickens me, I dont even hang around kids my age because they either try to use me (i used to have a hard time saying no to doing something for some one), or they get mad at me when I say something like "you have 2 legs as well why not you walk 2ft and get it"

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 01:14:22 PM »
Muse I love it when you comment on any subject because you put so much thought into every post. :)

But on some notes

I might have been judgemental but after seeing this day in and day out it does make it easy to generalize teenagers. Dont get me wrong I do not think that all kids are disrespectful or bad. Its just that those are pretty much all I ever see teaching martial arts and when im working. I can understand if acting a certain way in the family may be normal for them and thats ok but when they use that attitude/presence on me or somebody not in their family I see that as disrespectful. Its ok if you do it in your family but they shouldnt do that to strangers.

True kids dont raise themselves, everything around them helps raise them. But those kids have a choice to act like they see or act in a way they know they should act. Even bad kids know how to act but choose not to. Though I believe parents have the highest effect on how a kid turns out.

Truthfully I never talked back to my father/mother nor did I ever insult them. The reason was that I was afraid of my father, I would never dare cross him. My sister is the same way. Yes a few times I did think that he is an ass but I would never act out on those emotions I would usually go in my room and take my anger out on a wall or something. Yes my parents were "lame" and I didnt like them/agree with them but I always kept my mouth shut and it was for the best. I know fearing your parents is not a good thing but I did and when I was 15 I no longer feared him and out of that fear came respect and still to this day I respect him above all others. My father never beat me nor did he ever really hurt me but he let me know that disrespecting someone is wrong and there are consequences for doing that.

I completely understand that parenting is a thing that I do not understand yet nor do i know how each child is being raised. I do not have kids but I know I will raise my kids similar to the way my father raised me, except be a little more human (he was very android like). I would raise them with a firm fist in reguards to certain things and then let them grow on their own in everything else.

I guess my points are"
1. kids are raised by everbody and everything but in the end they choose who they will be. Good or bad.
2. I know all kids are not the same but disrespect seems to be a re-occuring theme lately(last few years) for me.
3. Parenting is hard but the parents have to "parent" in order to call it parenting. I believe it is common sense in most areas for parenting. Respect, dont lie/cheat, work hard, be happy. There are areas where parenting can be very hard but they had a child and should have been prepared for what can and might come.

But thank you muse I always appreciate your opinion. You are always very insightful.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2009, 01:19:51 PM by Chris Parker »
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 02:03:02 PM »
It can be a pain to me at times, but Im glad my parents are old timey when it comes to raising me and my sister. I see kids these days walking right past someone who needs help. They don't ask, but you can tell.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2009, 03:28:57 PM »
That's funny Muse, my parents are usually "lipping" off to me.  Just the other night my mom went on a huge rant about how I was going to be a bum because I spend too much time helping other people rather than helping myself (she apologized today :)).  Example, instead of working a job and making money, I volunteer in a hospital.  Then again I'm not your run of the mill teenager.  I've never owned a cellphone :O (don't need one either).

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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2009, 05:51:48 PM »
Don't think me racist or a stereotyper or child abuser or anything....but this is why you beat your kids ;)

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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2009, 07:31:49 PM »
its sad that kids will go out of their way to do illegal stupid crap but not take the quarter of a second to hold a door for someone. its just so much easier to help people than waste your time the victims time and the police's time with senseless vandalization. i realize i sound like a strict old bastard but im 16 and im fine with a little bending of the law as long as nobody's getting hurt and ints not gonna come back to bite me.

so i think if kids took a little time to implement the golden rule everybody would be a lot happier
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2009, 08:06:42 PM »
I think that most kids are getting so much instant gratification in their lives that they don't understand cause, effect, and self-control.  They may never learn how to think abstractly to know, "doing this will help so and so.  Or acting respectfully will benefit me and X"  From my observations, this leads to laziness, selfishness and no desire to better oneself.

I fully believe that people are molded by their experiences.  If they don't need to be patient, they won't learn to be.  Although I'm only 17, I was very lucky to be able to think abstractly when I was younger.  Because I was taught, "If you want this, you can earn it" I learned about cause and effect.  I worked for what I wanted and I matured accordingly.  That's not to say that I haven't been VERY lucky in my life.  I've always had a solid and nuclear family and gotten whatever I've REALLY wanted.  Though even when it came time for gift giving, if something was expensive I'd always have to pay for half.

Unfortunately, I've had a lot of exposure to the immature and selfish brats.  At work on this past Wednesday, a summer camp came in to bowl.  (I'm a manager at a duckpin alley in Towson, Stoneleigh Lanes)  The entire time I had kids yelling at me to buy candy.  Sometimes at the register I would be ringing one kid out, when one pudgy child or another would come up and (quite literally) yell "HEY, HOW MUCH THIS COST?"  Don't even think they listen to what you're saying either.  One group repeatedly hit the sweep (the arm that knocks the pins over when it's resetting) and lo and behold: the lane broke!  Of course one of them comes up to the desk looking all impatient and says, "Yo, the lane is broke.  Give us a new one"  Well no shit it's broken, do you actually expect me to put you on another lane so you can break it again?"  That took about 30 minutes of tinkering to fix.  (Did I mention I double as a mechanic?)

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2009, 07:25:38 AM »
mike your job sounds like a bitch best of luck keeping your sanity

warning incoming rant if you dont like reading skip to the last paragraph
i work at a litle fast food shack and constantly i get "my kid dropped their (insert food or drink here) can i get another one"
1 they always want it for free secondly they somehow get the notion that it's my fault that their litle toddler dropped something way too big for them to carry. usually if its just a kids soda or something i get them another one free of charge, but i frequently get somebody that handed their kid the whole tray and they spilled everything and we just cant be giving out entire meals for free.

we also serve ice cream at my work and we are famous for our root beer floats, in order to make it correctly so there is room for ice cream and soda (when the ice cream hits the soda it foams up like mentos in diet pepsi) so there is a quarter inch of space betwwen the rim of the cup and the soda. people alway are complaining that i gypped them and demand more soda so then if i dont they want to see the manager and if i do they end up spilling foam all over themselves and make a mess of the tables (the good old lose lose situation) now when these foam over people have the nerve to ask for another one free [WTF]!!!!

so in my opinion from a very young age kids expect to get everything for free and if they screw up something there is no penalty. and its natural to act like your parents because they are your role models for life, so i think if parents got off their high horse and realized that they are no more special or important than anyone else in the room kids might act like normal human beings than expecting to be waited on hand and food because they never worked a day in their life and momy and dady will make all the problems dissapear.

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