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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2006, 10:53:00 PM »
Those last 6 posts, I think, make this the coolest thread ever  :P. ;D
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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2006, 05:09:18 AM »
Yeah, L looked atvthe tread and was like"ohh god, how did this Are flips PK thread get up to 3 Pages..." Then i saw M2's post and nodded in agrement, Then i saw gear and Skippers posts and smiled... Way to turn lemons into lemonade

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2006, 10:08:23 PM »
...and then have a lemonade fight

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2006, 08:27:06 AM »
Ahhh my eye it burns it burns!!!!!
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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2006, 07:02:54 PM »
David cooks breakfast occasionally too, but alas, that is not parkour either.

"But skipper, david is the creator of parkour, why is he doing flips and cooking breakfast??? is he allowed to do all of that stuff????"

Why yes, sometimes he takes a few minutes out of his day to not do parkour as well.

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2006, 11:06:50 PM »
Yeah,...whatever.  But face the fact that newcomers to Parkour....Free running, or whatever you want to call it, get interested from seeing videos of people like Chase Armitage, Skynative and DAVID BELLE doing impossible leaps, vaults, and FLIPS.  Sebastian Foucan's demo even has a front flip in it.  Anytime the media gets a demonstration, knowing nothing about it, they're going to say "how about some flips?", and when you go into the long, boring explanation of how flips are not really Parkour, they are going to hear "blah, blah blah.....let's find someone to do some flips.  (See http://www.americanparkour.com/smf/index.php/topic,1501.0.html).  I can understand your desire to keep it "pure", but from a newcomer/filmmaker's perspective, it seems a bit elitist and silly.
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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2006, 01:23:32 AM »
Wow...you mean that a newcomer might misinterpret something and that perhaps it is our job to guide them in the right direction?! I've never heard such a thing!

Then again, according to what you're saying, we should adjust the meaning of the art for each person who comes to us misinformed. If we continually did this, then Parkour would have absolutely no meaning. Eventually EVERYTHING would be Parkour, which would make Parkour NOTHING....

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2006, 03:31:30 AM »
Didn't Belle break from the yamakazi because of how they were practising parkour? That they became freestyle instead of traditional?
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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2006, 12:21:17 PM »
nope....the freestyle part is wrong atleast... that was made up by Urban freeflow a lil while ago...thank god it's gone now ;D

i think yamakazi was doing "art du displacement"(sp?) 


i of course could be wrong since i have not followed the entire life story of db.....still don't get the beef he has with seb or if there even is a beef or if they were ever friends.....'


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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2006, 01:57:49 PM »
The break could have been for a variety of reasons, none of which matter now, and especially not to those not involved in the actual situation ;)

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2006, 04:20:18 PM »
I want to see a solid chunk of footage with foucan. I've seen little pieces and he looks amazing.


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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2006, 04:32:54 PM »
http://parkour.com/media/video1.wmv

There's one more short, if you haven't seen it. Lots of old footage, still...

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2006, 12:45:45 AM »
It's my understanding that when that schism took place it was because the guys from Yamakasi signed on to the Yamakasi film which presented the art in a way that glorified using the skills for theivery and portrayed it in a reckless rebellious light.  This, he aptly considered the "prostitution of the art" and so they went their seperate ways.

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2006, 07:03:02 AM »
^^^what he said, im not saying its true, im just saying thats what i heard^^^

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2006, 11:17:40 AM »
If people come here thinking that parkour is only big leaps and flips then they should take time and see what it really is instead of thinking that they are right and everyone else is wrong. I think it was two weeks ago Belle was in NY for the B13 screening. And there was a Q&A after the flim. Although some advised against it some one asked what Belle thought about flips. And guess what he said the same thing everyone is saying now. I have tried flips, and i do handsprings but that doesn't make it parkour.

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2006, 02:01:15 PM »
he was actually asked twice about it :P And i belive Skippper has it taped if you still dont belive it.

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2006, 08:18:24 PM »
I don't know about any of you guys but I personally think a huge Kong vault is a hell of a lot more impressive than a flip...


Also, Kerby, here's the thing. You want to go do flips, fine. No one's saying that it's a bad way to move around. But when you integrate flips and other moves that have no purpose but to be showy, then it just can't be called Parkour. There's no *wrong* way to get over a rail, but parkour requires that you maximize efficiency and speed,  and flips reduce efficiency a great deal. I mean, if you were being chased, would you even THINK of flipping over something?

Yeah, it's almost purely a matter of semantics, but the distinction between parkour and freerunning is a pretty important one.

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Re: Why so down on flipping?
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2006, 09:18:40 PM »
Why didn't this thread die?  :o
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