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Rolling On Concrete
« on: November 10, 2008, 02:35:40 PM »
I can do rolls without any problem on grass, even after a big drop. However, I'm certain I'll injure myself pretty badly if I try it on concrete. I was looking at the rolling topic above but couldn't find any sound advice on it, so I figured I'd give it a go here.

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 05:47:57 PM »
Have you ever tried rolling on concrete from a crouching position yet? Until you do that you'll have no idea how good your rolls are.
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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 07:14:33 PM »
Not yet, I'll give it a go and let you know the feedback.

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 07:24:29 PM »
I had the same experience.  I could take a running jump of about 10 feet onto grass no problem.  But concrete was impossible.  After the third hour of tutorial videos, I realized that I didn't have any abnormal bone or something.  My form was just plain horrible, and the grass had allowed for it.  After I corrected my form, I had concrete down within the hour.
Re-evaluate your form and maybe try something softer before concrete (wood, thin carpet, etc.)
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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 12:23:27 PM »
Yea, I agree with you, Spark.  Try something that's a little softer than concrete; I suggest thin carpets because they won't scratch you up if your technique isn't perfect.  Just take it slow at first.  Start from a crouched position where you almost fall into the roll; this isn't proper technique, per se, but it will give you confidence and help you adjust the position of your body during the roll.  It takes a lot of time, but you'll get there eventually.

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 03:53:27 PM »
That's a good idea. I got the tutorial video coming in the mail, so I'll check it out once it shows up. I did try a roll on concrete but every time, I would freak out and sort of catch myself/roll sideways. Needless to say, it doesn't feel good.

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 10:00:56 PM »
I had the same experience.  I could take a running jump of about 10 feet onto grass no problem.  But concrete was impossible.  After the third hour of tutorial videos, I realized that I didn't have any abnormal bone or something.  My form was just plain horrible, and the grass had allowed for it.  After I corrected my form, I had concrete down within the hour.
Re-evaluate your form and maybe try something softer before concrete (wood, thin carpet, etc.)

Real quick, I have to say that if your roll isn't good enough on concrete, you shouldn't be using it for 10 foot running jumps, even onto grass. Bad technique means it's not redirecting the momentum properly. Improper momentum means injury and impact. I wouldn't do anything that you wouldn't do on concrete.

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 10:21:19 PM »
I had the same experience.  I could take a running jump of about 10 feet onto grass no problem.  But concrete was impossible.  After the third hour of tutorial videos, I realized that I didn't have any abnormal bone or something.  My form was just plain horrible, and the grass had allowed for it.  After I corrected my form, I had concrete down within the hour.
Re-evaluate your form and maybe try something softer before concrete (wood, thin carpet, etc.)

Real quick, I have to say that if your roll isn't good enough on concrete, you shouldn't be using it for 10 foot running jumps, even onto grass. Bad technique means it's not redirecting the momentum properly. Improper momentum means injury and impact. I wouldn't do anything that you wouldn't do on concrete.

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In response to the rolling on concrete thing, just go out on concrete and practice it. You'll be getting a lot more feedback than if you were training them on grass. Keep in mind that it won't be painless at first, but just stick with it. There is no magic trick to rolls. It just takes practice, and finding out which sensations will not be eliminated, and identifying the pain that can be eliminated. (Rolling on concrete won't feel like rolling on pillows no matter how good your roll is, but if you are rolling correctly you shouldn't have any "pain".)

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 06:09:32 PM »
I had the same experience.  I could take a running jump of about 10 feet onto grass no problem.  But concrete was impossible.  After the third hour of tutorial videos, I realized that I didn't have any abnormal bone or something.  My form was just plain horrible, and the grass had allowed for it.  After I corrected my form, I had concrete down within the hour.
Re-evaluate your form and maybe try something softer before concrete (wood, thin carpet, etc.)

Real quick, I have to say that if your roll isn't good enough on concrete, you shouldn't be using it for 10 foot running jumps, even onto grass. Bad technique means it's not redirecting the momentum properly. Improper momentum means injury and impact. I wouldn't do anything that you wouldn't do on concrete.


A misunderstanding.  What I meant to say was that it felt like no problem.  The grass allowed for sloppy technique.
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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 08:09:28 PM »
Well i would just like to add. perhaps a nice think sweatshirt would be a nice precaution for your first attempts. Its an idea i had but im no where near ready with my rolls to step onto asphalt or concrete. 

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 07:45:55 AM »
I had the same experience.  I could take a running jump of about 10 feet onto grass no problem.  But concrete was impossible.  After the third hour of tutorial videos, I realized that I didn't have any abnormal bone or something.  My form was just plain horrible, and the grass had allowed for it.  After I corrected my form, I had concrete down within the hour.
Re-evaluate your form and maybe try something softer before concrete (wood, thin carpet, etc.)

Real quick, I have to say that if your roll isn't good enough on concrete, you shouldn't be using it for 10 foot running jumps, even onto grass. Bad technique means it's not redirecting the momentum properly. Improper momentum means injury and impact. I wouldn't do anything that you wouldn't do on concrete.


A misunderstanding.  What I meant to say was that it felt like no problem.  The grass allowed for sloppy technique.

Yeah. Exactly what I'm saying.

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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 01:03:46 PM »
Well i would just like to add. perhaps a nice think sweatshirt would be a nice precaution for your first attempts. Its an idea i had but im no where near ready with my rolls to step onto asphalt or concrete. 

When I just started trying to learn on concrete, I thought the same thing.  A sweatshirt would make it easier with padding and whatnot.  Right?

Well, when I actually got to learning, I noticed that the sweatshirt provided minimal padding and I ended up ditching it and just using a T-shirt.  It allowed for a better 'feel' of the ground.  In my opinion, a sweatshirt is more for the confidence.
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Re: Rolling On Concrete
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 02:47:30 PM »
I finally did it! Apperently my rolls are pretty good form (as I feel little or no pain, even on concrete). The biggest issue was fear causing me to screw up. My rolls on grass are very good I just couldn't transfer the technique to concrete because I'd freak and screw up. I finally pulled it off and threw them into some jumps and they are feeling pretty good! ;D

Going out and simply practicing them is probably the best way to go, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten over the fear of hard concrete.